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Is Pto Possible?

Discussion in 'Winches' started by Miller Mears, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. Dec 20, 2018
    Miller Mears

    Miller Mears Member

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    thinking about a winter project. 1974 v8 all orginial cj5. is it possible to install a pto winch in this without reworking the whole jeep? where would i start? Pros and cons PTO vs Electric? Thanks again
     
  2. Dec 20, 2018
    PeteL

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    To answer the second question, electric are perhaps easier to install, and can get you out of a jam. But for sustained pulling power a PTO will perform much better as a serious work-horse. Others may disagree.
     
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  3. Dec 20, 2018
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Dana 20 transfer case? Yes there are PTO's available, they're rare but they're out there. They replace the transfer case pan and as such they do hang down a bit reducing ground clearance.

    Electric is easier & under some situations where the engine can't run definitely better but a PTO will outhaul anything electric costing less than 5 figures.

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    Jeep Winches: Dana 20 PTO Adapter
     
  4. Dec 21, 2018
    jeeper50

    jeeper50 jeeps 'till I die

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  5. Dec 21, 2018
    colojeepguy

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    Cons of PTO? The engine has to be running!
    Now of course an electric won't pull very long with the engine off before it kills your battery, but if you're stuck in a river or mud hole and drowned out the engine it may be enough to get the job done.
    But as posted above, a PTO will pull all day long and will make most electrics look stupid when it comes to pulling power,
     
  6. Dec 21, 2018
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    I'd love to find a D20 PTO. :drool;
     
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  7. Dec 21, 2018
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Put an wanted ad in the classifieds, I know someone here a few years back had some squirreled away. Failing that they pop up on ebay a few times a year.
     
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  8. Dec 21, 2018
    jeepstar

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    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    Ok, maybe not that badly. :D It's pretty low on the priority list, but I do watch for them locally.
     
  10. Dec 21, 2018
    73 cj5

    73 cj5 Not ready for the junkyard yet

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  11. Jan 4, 2019
    Miller Mears

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  12. Jan 4, 2019
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Not seeing the relay box or control cable. :(

    "Everything moves", but does the motor spin?
     
  13. Jan 4, 2019
    PeteL

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    Like he said. I wouldn't pay much more than that for a working one..
     
  14. Jan 4, 2019
    Miller Mears

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    so guys to be clear yall would say that's a fair price for one that complete and working?
     
  15. Jan 6, 2019
    Twin2

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    I am going to be out on a limb this this . good working condition with all parts , solenoid box. remote control . roller fairlead . and mounting plate 600.00
    new one are close to 2K . and I would never pay that
     
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  16. Feb 19, 2019
    Miller Mears

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    I have not given up on this winch deal. Now looking at a Belleview/Warn winch. No control cables, broken main gear tooth but the motor is sound and the rest of it is in good condition. And of course it is on the other side of the country (west coast) as it seems all of the good old jeep parts are. Price is $75. First can someone explain how the Fastenal shipping works? Would that be the best way to send it across the country? And most importantly what am i getting into?

    Warn bellview winch


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  17. Feb 19, 2019
    45es

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    Although the old Belleview winches were great in their day, considering your total costs for winch, shipping and trying to find parts for the old winch, I would pass on that one. The only place that I know of that may have parts is Herm. Short of him, you will be looking for another old Belleview winch for parts.
     
  18. Feb 19, 2019
    RATTYFLATTY

    RATTYFLATTY I think you need a little more throttle

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    Not to open up another can of worms. You say your jeep is all original, you don't happen to have a T18 with a PTO port on the side in it?
     
  19. Mar 1, 2019
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    One listed in early classifieds right now....
     
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  20. Aug 9, 2020
    Lucas

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    I have a konig pto winch in working order nothing broken on it.
    As well as the take off . I'd like to sell it to fund another aspect of my build. Not sure where he I would post it. I considered here rather than what. They seem to sell very quickly there and are usually broken or incomplete
     
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