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Buying Used Jeep Axles

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by FinoCJ, Mar 31, 2023.

  1. Mar 31, 2023
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    I am looking into buying some used 70s wagoneer axles - set of D44s front and rear, passenger drop both. Seller claims they are from a quadratrac unit - thus the rear is offset passenger side. That should be fine for use with a D18. I've never bought axles not attached to a vehicle ....anything I should be looking for? What's a reasonable price?
     
  2. Mar 31, 2023
    ITLKSEZ

    ITLKSEZ Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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    They’re worth whatever you’re willing to pay. I’ve seen them anywhere from $400 to $1000 for the matching set, but it’s rare that they come up any more at all. They’re getting harder to find, so beggars can’t really be choosers. Go into it assuming they’re cores so you won’t be disappointed if they really are.
     
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  3. Mar 31, 2023
    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    So what constitutes a 'core' in this case....housing that isn't rusted through or bent etc? Bearings are replaceable, but carrier bearing caps are not...R&P and side gears can be replaced....even axle shafts can be replaced....so basically if it's a good housing it has a chance of being worth buying? These are not for immediate use, but wouldn't mind storing them away in case I need them in the future.
     
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    SFaulken

    SFaulken Active Member

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    Tubes aren't bent, none of the tubes or carrier are rotted out, the bearing bores are all still round and concentric, the diff case bearing caps are intact, I'd personally say the brake mounting flanges are intact.

    That's generally what I'd consider a *good* core.
     
  5. Mar 31, 2023
    duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

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    With the BW1339, the gearing is probably 3.07's. The other option was 3.54's, neither of which are going to be very suitable for a CJ but then you would likely be replacing those with lockers anyway. The tread width is 59". I would be going for the low side of Ryan's estimate on cost. I paid $300 for a pair of Scout II D44's several years back. Those too had 3.07 gears and I ended up only using the hubs, spindles, and disc brakes from the front. That rear axle is now under my friend Dene's Willys wagon with 3.73's and a Powr-Lok.
     
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    47v6

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    from my perspective...

    I have cobbled together all manner of junk. On the D30 I just put an Ox locker in, I realized I had GM calipers, jeep disks with a cj2a hub on one side and some hub from a newer cj on the other and drum spindles. I looked at that and just threw it all away, ordered new hubs and disk spindles..

    My point is, from my perspective, this stuff is worth scrap price. Its all garbage to me because the ball joints are toast, the wheel bearings/hubs/lockouts and brakes are junk and if youre going to swap out the case, all you have left is a housing and some tubes that may or may not be any good.

    To do this again, I would buy a ready made axle or fabricate one I want. To buy some old D44 or D30 junk, to me, its not worth more than 100 bucks an axle, tops..Others may disagree, but here is an example
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/currie-enterprises-high-pinion-60-rear-axle-with-disc-brakes-4-10-gears-and-arb-air-locker-ce-jr6304a41/_/R-DVPF-CE-JR6304A41?ppcfon=1&gp=1&ecmp=s:google_18696791715___&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=SC Shopping - LowVolume & Brands - Performance Max&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiZqhBhCJARIsACHHEH8J-x_quLHZDAQMbG2gMY-PSND3L98T-dRx8uoyrXsrsFB-q0SAPNkaAtI1EALw_wcB
    I know its not a CJ axle, but for 6 grand you get a bolt in axle with everything you want and that ARB locker.

    Yeah, its worth more than my entire jeep, but I just put 1800.00 into a POS D30 and spent a week welding and wrenching on it... Still not done..And I am reusing the calipers and lock outs, gears and axle shafts.
     
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  7. Mar 31, 2023
    colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

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    I look at cl and marketplace almost every day looking for Jeep stuff, so I think I have a good feel for what these sell for (at least in my area). I'd expect to pay around 4-500 for a good used front axle (complete) and maybe 2-300 for a rear.
    I recently bought a CJ disc brake 30 for 300 bucks and felt like I got a pretty good deal.
     
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    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    These would be for the wagon, so 59" is good and 3.54 is fine as well given the sbc350/sm465 combo etc. 3.07 might be a bit too high. Not sure I need lockers for it - not true wheeling rig, but a selectable rear is never a bad thing.
    Know where I can get a set for a 58 wagon? I don't disagree with your sentiment, but That D60 is both sweet and overkill.... especially for small tires. It's geared too low, needs converted to leaf springs, have the disc brakes removed so I can run drums,....well you get the idea ... I am better off with something much closer to OEM axles....I am running them as is, but just wouldn't mind stashing something away at the right price in case I blow something up behind the V8. Most likely I'll never need them.
     
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    duffer

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    Depends on whether or not you do actually wheel the wagon. If you do, eventually you WILL be replacing the D25. The rear could last, 2 piece or not.

    I'm another that thinks D60's are, for the most part overkill, not to mention the weight and ground clearance issues.
     
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    FinoCJ

    FinoCJ 1970 CJ5 Staff Member

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    Looks like the axles are gone anyway
     
  11. Apr 1, 2023
    47v6

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    OK, the D60 was just an example of what you can get. Here is a D44,
    https://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-23173923-dana-44-cj-front-bolt-in-axle-assembly.html
    https://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-23173905-dana-44-cj-rear-bolt-in-axle-assembly-30-spline.html
    You pay one way or another. There is no such thing was a free lunch. If you pay 500 bucks for an axle and use nothing but the housing and buy everything new, have someone set up your gears, spend 2 weeks on it every day after work, you're at least halfway to the cost of brand new delivered. These are also all new with modern brakes.
     
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  12. Apr 2, 2023
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    FWIW James - I paid $450 for both the front and rear D44 Wagon axles @ 6 years ago I bought last. Figured that was a 'core' as I was looking for a solid base to maybe build a set.
     
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