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Finally Got Going on My '60 Build

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by Heatseeker, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. Jan 16, 2012
    Heatseeker

    Heatseeker Member

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    I finally got started on my CJ5 build. When I bought it, my intention was a total teardown and rebuild for crawling and camping. Nothing too fancy, just functional. Since then, life has thrown me a few curves. At this point, I have neither the space, the time or the money to follow through with my original intention. It does fairly well on the few trails I taken through. And I have driven it to and from every trail.

    At this point, I plan on rebuilding the engine(it's a smoker and a leaker), seal the trans/transfer(it's a leaker), upgrade the brakes(it's not a stopper) and add a rebuilt York compressor. I will do some cosmetic upgrades as well.

    With all that being said, here we go:

    Here is the little V6 that could, all stripped and ready for removal
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    The empty hole after removal
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    And here it is in all it's glory. The epitome of horsepower
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    More to come as it develops...
     
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  2. Jan 17, 2012
    Farmer Mike

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    Where's the torch marks John?
     
  3. Jan 18, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    No hot wrench work this time!
     
  4. Jan 21, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    Did a little more tear down today. I got the trans/transfer out. The underside is looking rather desolate now:
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    I found a couple of large holes in the frame. The pic is of the hole in the driver's side frame. As can be seen in the pic, the holes were backed up with a piece if 3/8" plate crudely welded in. There is another directly across on the passenger side. Anybody know what the reason for these holes could have been???
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    Now, I need to clear the one available corner of the garage so I have some room to tear the engine down. I need a bigger garage!!!
     
  5. Jan 22, 2012
    04sd2

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    With the jeep assembled could you put a pipe through both holes or would it hit the transfer case?
     
  6. Jan 22, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    The holes are just behind the transfer. If you look on the frame just ahead of the hole, you can see the crossmember mounting holes. I'm not sure, but I suppose a pipe going across would hit the rear driveshaft. I just cannot think of any reason for someone to do this.

    Regardless, I'm going to patch the holes from the outside of the frame.
     
  7. Jan 22, 2012
    Jmoto

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    saw a picture once of a large sickle bar (farm implement) attached to the side of a Jeep. Not sure if that was what it's for but it's the first thing that comes to mind.
     
  8. Jan 23, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    That makes as much sense as anything I've been able to come up with. And I've seen some pretty jerry rigged farm set ups over the years. The crudeness of the bore job totally fits your theory.

    I hope the axles haven't been 'plowed' to death. Something else to tear apart and check...

    Disclaimer: not meaning offense to farmers. I've seen lots of farmers come up with some very crude but effective solutions. Kudos for that.
     
  9. Jan 23, 2012
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Do you have a rear tank, or look like it had one at some time? I have seen folks do that to run the exhaust out of the frame so that they could put a rear tank in while moving the exhaust so it does not get crushed when routed under the frame.
     
  10. Jan 23, 2012
    chsullivan

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    Looks good man are you rebuilding the motor or swapping for something different
     
  11. Jan 24, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    Warloch, that may very well be the case. There is a tank filler on the pass. side rear quarter, but no longer a tank underneath. That also may explain why all the wiring and brake line is wrapped in asbestos cloth... thanks for the replies fellas!

    ch: gonna rebuild her. She smokes and leaks all over the place. It really ran good, so I'm hoping for a quick hone/re-ring/re-bearing/re-seal job.
     
  12. Feb 5, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    I was busy the last two days. I started with the transfer reseal. It functioned fine, just leaked all over. Tear down revealed a recent rebuild. It had all new bearings(though the outer races were grayed) and the gears looked really good. I decided to powdercoat the case, externals and the driveshafts since they were loose. Here's what it looked like when I started yesterday:
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    After truing up all the surfaces with a file, I started assembly. I installed the output shafts and set the end play to .003". I found that the PO had .010" more shim than needed. Probably explains the occasional clunk I was hearing when changing from forward to reverse and maybe why the outer races were grayed. http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc296/Heatseekerjet/SAM_0709.jpg?t=1328485727




    The intermediate shaft was slightly roller pounded.
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    Since it wasn't making any noise when running and the shaft can be replaced with transfer in place(and I'm broke:cry:), I decided to run it for the time being. The gear runs smooth with very little play, so it should be okay until I can scrape up the dough for a kit. The thrust washers looked almost new, so I'm assuming it was replaced by the PO.

    Here it is assembled as far as I'm going for now. Everything moves smooth and free.
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    Next up, strip the tranny, get it powdercoated and sealed up...
     
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  13. Feb 5, 2012
    Farmer Mike

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    Looks good
     
  14. Apr 22, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    Progress has been slow, but I thought I would post an update. The engine has been rebuilt and replanted under the hood. I'm working on getting the last of the engine related stuff together. The trans/xfer is done and awaiting installation. I'm currently working on the mounting bracket for the alt/oba compressor. I have the locations set, just need to strengthen and weld the bracket.

    Here's what it's looking like this afternoon:
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    I'm hoping to put the trans/xfer in next weekend. Then there's another list of things to get to finish up.
    Not going to be able to do the disc brakes this time around:cry:. I'm having a cashflow problem...
     
  15. Apr 23, 2012
    TexasBlues

    TexasBlues JEEP-Hockey-Holic

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    WOW! thats one clean and pretty engine there, friend...

    looks GREAT!
     
  16. Apr 23, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    ^Thanks! Lots of powdercoat there.^
     
  17. Jun 9, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    It's been a long while since I've been able to do anything on the old Jeep. I've been caught up in a bunch of home improvement stuff, tile in the basement, painting, blah, blah, blah...

    Today, I finally got a chance to get back after it. I had been working on the compressor mount and finished it a few weeks ago. I refer to the bracket as frankenbracket, not pretty, but gets the job done:
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    I relocated the alternator and placed the compressor above it. I ran into a little snag with the thermostat housing. It was pointed directly at the corner of the compressor:
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    So, I fabbed anew thermostat housing out of stainless:
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    Much better!

    I got everything underneath done except for the driveshafts. The u-joints are on order. I figured out the hacked up wiring, which was a pain in the behind.

    All that is left is radiator hoses, a new one wire alternator, oil, oil and air filters, plumb the air compressor and put the floor plate back in.

    I can't wait to finish it up and shake it down before the Rubicon trip in August!!!
     
  18. Jun 10, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    bracket looks purdy good to me!!! If i can get my jeep done in time then I am going to try to figure out a compressor. im sure mine will consist of junk yard treasures which is fine by me!
     
  19. Jun 10, 2012
    Heatseeker

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    72, I could hang my house from that bracket...lol. The compressor was a junkyard find. It came off an old Lincoln Continental. I bought all the parts for a rebuild and powdercoated it. I hope it works! I hate driving to the nearest gas station on soft tires...
     
  20. Jun 10, 2012
    '72CJ5

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    never had that problem so far. never had a compressor and the nearest station is like 15 miles or so from my usual wheelin holes so i just wheeled at 30 psi. My buddy on the other hand, had a very well built cj7 that he ended up converting his ac compressor into a pump. Would inflate a 33" tire in less then 2 minutes....we actually blew up a garden wagon tire on accident because we couldn't get the line off in time.
     
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