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Parking Brake Advice.

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Tom_Hartz, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. Aug 13, 2014
    Tom_Hartz

    Tom_Hartz Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    I am looking for opinions on what to do for a parking brake. I have picked up a 1967 CJ5 with a Dana 18 transfer case and the original owner removed everything to do with the parking brake. He said the it made the transfer case leak bad.
    So I am starting with nothing.
    Would you try to set something up on the transfer case again?
    Or do I set it up on the rear axle? The Jeep does have a 10" brake conversion.
    Also what about with the handle or pedal?
    I have found some articles on line of what some people have done however some of them are so dated.
    Please let me know what you think.
    Oh, if anyone has some parts I could use PM me.

    Thanks.
    Tom
     
  2. Aug 13, 2014
    Mike S

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    Use the rear brake setup.

    Get a pull up handle assembly from the junk yard, and put it between the seats.
     
  3. Aug 13, 2014
    Phil P

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    I was in the same boat when I bought my 3A 5 years ago. Herm had everthing to put it back on the T case
     
  4. Aug 13, 2014
    wheelie

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    Someone here likely has the factory set up laying around that they may be willing to part with. Post a WTB in the classifieds if that's the route you want to take.
     
  5. Aug 13, 2014
    Tom_Hartz

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    I would like to go whatever way work the best with the least amount of problems. The Jeep is not stock so I am not worried about being original.
     
  6. Aug 13, 2014
    PeteL

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    I don't know that the brake "makes" the t/c leak.

    Fix the leaks, and the stock brake works well.

    I've always prefered the fine control a handle brake gives, for hill starts etc., and you don't need a third foot to apply a handle. Pedal e-brakes only came in with automatic transmissions.
     
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  7. Aug 13, 2014
    piffey263

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    Previous owner ripped the drum off of mine originally. I bought one from a member then took it off some time later and sold it, when I swapped to 11 inch brakes. It is nice not having to worry about catching stuff on it.

    the 11 inch brakes had a parking brake in them. I have yet to set up the brakes. Just need the handle and front cable. Which is easy to source from gm vehicles, ford looks like it work too.
    Postal jeeps, and intermediate cj5 have the 11 inch brakes. I know for sure the intermediate cj5 have rear parking brake. Which the brakes are pretty close to bolt up. I don't know about parking brake yet.
     
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    nickmil

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    Not true on the pedal park brake. '72-'75 CJ's never had an auto transmission yet had a pedal actuated park brake.
    I agree that the transfer case park brake does not cause leaks.
     
  9. Aug 13, 2014
    nickmil

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    To the OP, the easiest would be the transfer case park brake. I think the wheel mounted park brakes are more effective, but would be much more work and probably more expensive.
     
  10. Aug 14, 2014
    Tom_Hartz

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    I am going to post a WTB in the classified section and a phone call to Herm. I think I will see what it will take to do a transfer case brake.

    Thanks...
    Tom
     
  11. Aug 14, 2014
    timgr

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    I would point out that it's the transfer case leaks that make the TC-mounted parking brake ineffective. So the causality goes the other way, really.

    If you can stop the transfer case from leaking, the TC brake works fine, so I'm told. There are a lot of old posts on this forum about sealing the transfer case, if you search.

    That said, the foot-operated brake used '72-75 works darn well, but that goes with the 11'x2" Bendix brakes that use the cable operated parking brake. 10" brakes may be similarly equipped in some applications (Jeepster?), but your 10" brakes may not already have provision for the cable. And the 10" brakes have other issues...
     
  12. Aug 14, 2014
    PeteL

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    I bow to your knowledge in these details. I meant generically, within the auto industry as a whole, foot-pedal actuation was a phenomenon of the widespread adoption of automatic transmissions.

    Regrettably, in my opinion. Really hard to do a bootlegger turn with a pedal.
     
  13. Aug 14, 2014
    Tom_Hartz

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    My mistake. I have 11" brakes. I did not pull a drum but I did measure the backing plate.
    You are correct my backing plates do not have provisions for the cable.
    I think the previous owner changed the yoke on the transfer case output and the drive shaft so I am not sure if a drum will bolt up to it.
    I am leaning towards parking brakes on the rear axle.
    Looks like I am going to post a WTB in the classifieds.

    Thanks for the input.
    Tom
     
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    nickmil

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    Ahh, gotcha. That makes more sense to me.
     
  15. Aug 14, 2014
    jwinsley

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    you can have my transfer case mounted parking brake setup, transfer case drum and shoes. I dont think I have the linkage.. I think its complete but wont guarantee it, thats why its free, aside from shipping from HI.
     
  16. Aug 15, 2014
    aekdbbop

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    Not to hijack, but I am in the same boat.

    My jeep is a m38a1 / cj5 monster mix.

    Here is my TC drum

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    and I also have a broken cable from the PO that goes to the rear drivers side wheel.

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    what is my best option.. would prefer the m38a1 lever style.. am i setup for that?
     
  17. Aug 15, 2014
    1960willyscj5

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    I saw somewhere, maybe Wilwood, that had a disc brake replacement for the drum. That would be the way to go.
     
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    PeteL

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    [/QUOTE]would prefer the m38a1 lever style.. am i setup for that?[/QUOTE]

    The military is a simple mechanical link to the lever. I like it, but the brake parts are specific to the M38A1, so you would need those. It appears the drum you have is the military type.
     
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  19. Aug 15, 2014
    n6ifp

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    I used the Wildwood disc brake caliper. I can't get enough tension to keep the jeep from rolling on much of an angle. I have tried levers near the caliper and it still hasn't made me happy. I am still using to original park brake handle and considering going to floor mount foot operated pedal.
     
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    Twin2

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