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Suspension math ??????

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by spud, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. Jul 24, 2008
    spud

    spud Nope..it's not finished!

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    If I have a 21 degree driveshaft angle with 2 degree shims, is there a way to determine the angle when changing to 6 degree shims before I actually do it???

    I wish I would have listened better in math class:rofl:
     
  2. Jul 24, 2008
    NorCoJeeper

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    Yeah, it can be done, but you'll need some measurements that might be hard to make precisely and some trig. Why do you want to change the pinion angle?
     
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    Jeepman252

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    If I'm reading you right, I would say 17 degrees.

    If the angle with 2 degree shims = 21
    take out the 2 degree and add 6 degree shims
    21+2-6=17
     
  4. Jul 24, 2008
    spud

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    I wondered if it was that easy or if there were some geometric formula involved in it. I guess I need an 8 degree shim to get within the 15 degree sweet spot.
     
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    NorCoJeeper

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    That's the pinion angle, not the driveshaft angle. I made the same mistake when I first read it.
     
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    timgr

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    It will reduce the angle at the lower U-joint by about 4 degrees. The angle of the driveshaft with level won't change very much. The angle of the top U-joint wont change very much.

    Look at the primer on the Tom Woods site:http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html Tech Info -> Geometry 101
     
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    timgr

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    Yes. The change in the angle of the driveshaft from level won't be much, depending on the length of the driveshaft.
     
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    NorCoJeeper

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    You also have to remember that on a shaft with single joints at each end, the pinion angle and the transfer case output angle must be identical or you'll introduce vibration.
     
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    spud

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    Im gonna go read some more. This sounds complicated. I never thought a 2.5 in lift would need driveline attention. Oh well........
     
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    NorCoJeeper

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    It's the short driveshaft we have to deal with. Problems pop up a lot quicker than with a larger vehicle.
     
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