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military wheels????

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by 65chevy, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. Sep 27, 2011
    65chevy

    65chevy New Member

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    Im new to the Jeep world but familiar with cars. My grandmother gave me my grandfather's
    '69 cj5 and I would like to paint it like a M38A1. I've seen people talking about the steel
    wheels on those Jeeps and my question is what size are they 16"or15" ....I've seen
    references to both sizes als
    will a roll bar from a cj7 fit a cj5?? It has a hard top on it that I'm keeping but part of the
    deal was I had to put a bar in it
     
  2. Sep 28, 2011
    colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

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    Stock 69 wheels are 15", earlier Jeeps had 16's
    The CJ7 rollbar is quite different, it wouldn't fit without major modifications.
     
  3. Sep 29, 2011
    65chevy

    65chevy New Member

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    Thank you sir. Do you know a good place to get those wheels and the reproduction tires??
     
  4. Sep 29, 2011
    timjuhl

    timjuhl New Member

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    The M38A1 used 7.00-16 NDCC (non-directional cross-country) tires on a 16 x 4.5 rim. If you are just going for the military "look" there is no reason you couldn't go with 15 inch tires and rims if you'd rather. Word of warning - tires and rims can be pricey.

    Tim
     
  5. Sep 30, 2011
    jasonjp62

    jasonjp62 Member

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    Actually the cj 7 roll bar will fit but you have to move the tank if it is under the seat. this bar is from a 79

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  6. Sep 30, 2011
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    A rollbar from a pre-76 CJ-5 should fit.
     
  7. Sep 30, 2011
    Vanguard

    Vanguard Take Off! Staff Member

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    I can confirm this. That's where mine came from.
     
  8. Oct 2, 2011
    65chevy

    65chevy New Member

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    Thank you gentleman (and ladies if any )
     
  9. Oct 7, 2011
    Magilla

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    M38 (Military CJ-2a) and M38A1 (Military CJ-5) had 16 inch rims. Corresponding CJ's had 15" rims.

    If you want the military look at the lowest price, keep your stock 15 x 5.5 rims and go with 7.00-15 NDT or NDCC tires. Tires are $117 each.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/FIRESTONE-NDCC-Military-Tire-7-00-15-Jeep-Willys-?cmd=ViewItem&item=380208037269&vxp=mtr

    NDCC have better (marginally) on-road manners than true NDT tires. Note: They are BIAS PLY tires. Means the on road ride will never be that great, especially in cold weather. The looks are worth it, though (In my opinion). You can find some tall skinny pizza cutters that are radial, but you will pay a pretty penny. Toyo M93 makes a pretty cool looking tire, but they run $215 apiece.

    If you are going to rattle can paint it, make sure you go with "correct" color military paint. The flat OD GREEN from early 60's is a different paint code than the 1969 dark brown semi-gloss OD brown.

    Go with Gillespie or Aervoe enamel paints. Just pick which one works best for you.

    If you can afford a little more $$, go with TM-9 ordnance single stage urethane paint.

    TM-9 Ordnance Shade #8 (also known as 1939-1949 OD319) would look REALLY cool.
     
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