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Body Tub Options For '66 Cj5 ?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by teletech, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Aug 12, 2017
    Walt Couch

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    Howards was in worse shape. Didn't he do all the body and frame straightening himself?
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Not the frame, not all of it anyhow- as the shop didn't stress relieve properly after they pulled it back into shape it eventually re-twisted itself- I had to tweak it a bit on my own.

    For the sheet metal I used a replacement side panel & some other pieces.

    I'd say some hammer & dolly work & a skim coat of filler will get that back into good enough shape to make it look great.

    H.
     
  3. Aug 12, 2017
    Daryl

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    I just sold 2 tubs today. No more nice ones right now.
     
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    Muzikp

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    I was just sitting at my desk and looked on CL. I searched for 'CJ5 body' in S.F. Bay Area, there is a 62 "rolling shell" for $500. It's located in Sonoma and the CL post id is 6239190033. Sorry but my son hasn't taught me how to cut and past a CL listing yet.
     
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    Muzikp

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    Copy the link from the address bar...Paste here.
     
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    teletech

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    teletech

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    I did eventually save the tub. It's not the straightest tub out there but it might be about as straight as the pre-accident condition based on the amount of body filler I used vs. removed. One thing that really held me up is I got the tub to a point where I was fairly happy with it and it looked fine when I test-fit the fenders and grill, but as soon as I set the hood on the hood to grill fit was awful. I wound up pulling the tub off the frame, measuring the frame every which-way, putting it back on, fitting it all up again, and after still failing to get things to look decent taking the tub back off... again. More measurements and I found the tub was twisted a bit, straightening it really didn't help much. Eventually I looked back at old pictures of the Jeep and looked at the old grill support bolt and realized that part of that fitting issue had been present before the accident! Relieved by this revelation but still wanting to do a bit better, I oblonged a few of the body mount holes by about 1/8" and just pushed it hard in the direction I needed while securing the tub. It's still not going to be great, but: 1) it's a Jeep for cryin' out loud, and 2) it's been wrecked a couple-few times over the years. So, good enough.

    I've learned a lot in the intervening couple years working on other vehicles and it really shows, but I wasn't willing to strip down what I'd done totally in order to do it just a little better... maybe next time. :-\

    I tried to make a dent in the noise by applying "Lizard-Skin" to the wheel-wells, upper interior firewall, lower exterior firewall (trying to keep it discreet), and back of the dash.
    it's finally starting to look like a jeep again
     
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    Wow, great work, the jeep looks brand new! I'd love to hear a review of the lizardskin when you get it on the road again, as it was just brought up recently in another thread. I'm really curious about how well it reflects heat and noise.
     
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    Keys5a

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    My one-time trial of lizard skin over 10 years ago left me un-impressed. I used it on the firewall, floorpans, and tunnel area. I couldn't tell the difference. I was trying to keep the heat from transferring to the interior.
    Trying to keep the noise down in an open Jeep is futile, but so was the heat!
    -Donny
     
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    timgr

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    You can keep heat out, in my experience, with carpets and a couple extra layers of jute padding. Or you can mount a heat shield of steel about 1/2" distance from the floor, between the floor and the exhaust. Or both. I drove my '73 CJ-5 a lot many times with bare feet, but only after the carpet was installed.
     
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    givemethewillys

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    I had really good luck stopping my shoes from melting by using that aluminum-lined bubble wrap stuff, I think the biggest brand is reflectix now. I topped it with outdoor carpeting that I custom shaped to sit over the transmission hump, and it looked pretty great for years.

    There was a bit of surface rust when I pulled it all up, but I'm not sure if it was from condensation or leaks. I'll probably use it again, combined with seam sealing and better paint. Might try making my own lizardskin as an experiment too.
     
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    teletech

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    So far all I can say is the Lizardskin won't stick at all well to areas not scrupulously prepared. I had some left so just applied it to a random patch around the wheel-well and a week later (with no driving) it came peeling off in great sheets.
    It's also annoying to apply without spending the ~$200 for the special gun. I used a modified spray head for a 3M Accuspray and pressed on the paint bladder to get it to go.
    I'll know more about the noise reduction soon since today I actually drove the Jeep around the parking lot for the first time in two years.
     
  17. Aug 17, 2020
    teletech

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    Back on the road! I actually ran a few Jeep-related errands in it yesterday. The new bikini top is on backorder so since I'd kept it I decided to mount what was left of the one that was on the Jeep when I rolled it. Some good road-rash but it fit and kept the sun off. The Jeep looked like a project rather than an accident victim pretty early on so it is interesting to see a reminder of the event after all this time.

    I finally got all the lights sorted out. Turns out I'd bent a small metal part inside the Spartan switch housing in the accident and that was preventing it from centering properly, thus preventing my brake lights from working. It's all sorted out now.
    I used the original factory wiring harness for everything apart from the fuel level sender and adding a fuse block to the firewall to break up the load, but located it in such a way as not to have to modify the harness. I did replace some of the female couplings and just generally clean up the ends. Then assembled with connector lube/de-oxidizer. In retrospect I should have used a heavier electrical grease and really filled the connectors on the tub, I guess there's still time.
    So, the hood is the remaining cosmetic issue and the radiator fan is the remaining functional one.
    I don't like either of the hoods I have a lot, but am resistant to spending the ~$700 for a new one. I might just take the original one to a professional shop and see what they quote me to straighten it. The hoods I do have I'd consider fair at best, I'm tempted to shoot one to match just so I can drive around while I figure out my forever hood.
    The radiator fan, sigh. I'd like to go electric to save the energy at speed and for the increased cooling at idle, but I don't like the look of the pushers on an old Jeep and there's no room for a single puller. I suppose I could run two smaller fans, otherwise I need to somehow source a factory fan.
     
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