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Possible Tuxedo Park Mark III

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by mole2000, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. Sep 13, 2017
    Labeeman

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    That is a very awesome find. Anyone know where a man could find another one of these ? I need some parts from this jeep, specifically the bumpers.
     

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  2. Sep 13, 2017
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  3. Sep 15, 2017
    kelleesimms

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    Trailering it home tomorrow morning. More photos then.
     
  4. Sep 16, 2017
    Walt Couch

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    It's tomorrow morning already. :whistle:
     
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  5. Sep 18, 2017
    kelleesimms

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    Rick Whitson

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    I have never seen a Mark 3, There is a lot of things different on that Jeep than on my Mark 4. No column shift, no hood badges, no single lever on transfer shifter, and different heater controls. It does have chrome hinges, and grad bar, fender seat pads. Donny could probably tell you if it is a Mark 3 though. I would take a good look at that tow bar, the Tux bumper is held on by only two 5/16" bolts, I think, you might want to beef it up before towing it with that bar.
     
  9. Sep 19, 2017
    Uncle Vin

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    That's a home run. All the Tux-specific goodies are there. The rust is troublesome though. How bad are the floors?
     
  10. Sep 19, 2017
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    Floors are an 8 out of a possible 10. I've restored worse - actually, I've replaced worse. The windshield frame will obviously need to be replaced. A chrome shop will have a nice little order - any suggestions? I'm in Central Texas.
     
  11. Sep 19, 2017
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    With the right amount of work and money :) This one can be put back to where it started from. Glad your saving another III.
     
  12. Sep 19, 2017
    tarry99

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    sparky from 2008 above.............So can anyone get this article to work? and what date was the first Mark IV available? and this so called trim package?
     
  13. Sep 19, 2017
    kelleesimms

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    I found this write up here:

    Early Tuxedos

    The Tuxedo Park did not start as a full blown special. Like a lot of the editions we will see Jeep offered it started as a dealer add on package.


    The first of the Tuxedo Parks was the way Kaiser wanted to upgrade the CJ line to a more civilized image for the public. The thought process was to offer a stylish CJ5 with comfort and style so the CJ would be thought of as a more sporting vehicle over it's reputation of a farm and utility vehicle. Kaiser was looking into the future to insure the CJ would continue as a popular consumer item. We can say this, without this vision the universal line would never have survived into the top selling product it is today selling 4 door versions that compete with top of the line SUVs of other companies.

    In 1961 and continuing till 1963 a limited production run of CJ5 and CJ6s were produced under the name of Tuxedo Park. These offered a lot (not really), a chrome hood badge (I've never seen one), Chrome Bumper and Bumperettes (never seen bumperettes), Front 60/40 split seating (or split seats with custom covers), chrome hood hinges and mirror, special hub caps, and white sidewall tires. These are rare to find today and production numbers are hard to verify. Being the first of a SHOW type offering for Jeep they were amazed at how many they sold.

    The Mark IV Tuxedo Park

    In 1964 Kaiser stepped the game up and presented the package as a separate model with a serial number change to match.

    It was now the Tuxedo Park Mark IV and was a good selling item. The offered items not offered in the regular universal line. It came with a column mounted shifter, Turbine style hub caps, Single lever transfer case shifting, the bench seat had calf grain embossed vinyl and it came with rear wheel housing pads. Improved brakes with improved springs were part of the performance upgrade. It kept the chrome goodies from before. It had it's own parts addendum, W-1175 to keep up with the part changes in the model. Model Numbers 8322 for the CJ5 and 8422 for the Cj6 were on the Vin number, this was a full scale model change. Production numbers seem to show the CJ5 sold over 7400 units and the CJ6 sold 459 units before the end of production in 1969.

    This seems to be the most sought after special edition ever produced in the CJ line. The true travesty is that over the years so many were modded up for trail service it is hard to find original Parts that distinguished the model.
    One of the proud points to restored Mark IV owners is this was the only special edition that carried it's own model designation.

    Forward thinking with eyes to the future, Looked back at by AMC as they offered upscale Jeeps through the 70s and 80s, we can only take our hats off to this model for making the Jeep universal package the power seller it is in today's market.

    I'm compiling photos I find around the Interwebs here.
     
  14. Sep 20, 2017
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    The late-'63 Mk lll Tuxes had "Tuxedo Park MKlll" hood badges, but most earlier ones have no badges. The grill is usually painted white on all but the earliest I have seen. The later MK lll's seem to have two-tone black/coral upholstery rather than just coral. I have seen a column-shifted MK lll, but suspect it was converted as I have never documented another.
    I have seen MK lll's with rear bumperettes, but the chrome full bumper is much more common. The MK lll Tuxes have the chrome rim speedometer. The MK lll Tuxes have the earlier "Willys" tub with the mirror boss and the battery lid on the cowl. The MK lV Tux was built by Kaiser and introduced the revised tub, single-lever transfer case, and column shifter. The column shift was dropped with the introduction of the V6 for the '66 model year. Most '66 and '67 Tuxes were Dauntless powered.
    I wish I had noted the serial numbers of some of the Tuxes I have looked at over the years.
    -Donny
     
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  15. Sep 20, 2017
    kelleesimms

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    That's some great information right there!
     
  16. Sep 20, 2017
    kelleesimms

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    I've came across the serial number information shown below here:

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    There is quite a bit of additional information in that document including paint and trim codes except for the 429 trim code.


    This VIN decoding information has been posted elsewhere:

    VIN Numbers for 1962 to 1971 Jeep


    Character
    1st & 2nd
    57 = Universal
    81 = Universal CJ-3B
    83 = Universal CJ-5
    84 = Universal CJ-6
    85 = Universal DJ-6
    86 = Universal DJ-6
    87 = Jeepster C101 Chassis Code

    3rd & 4th
    01 = Convertible (Jeepster)
    02 = Commando Convertible (Jeepster)
    04 = Fire Engine
    05 = Open Body
    10 = Open Body (Universal Diesel)
    22 = Tuxedo Park Mark IV
    23 = Fire Truck (Universal)
    34 = Open Body (Universal CJ-3B)
    54 = Open Body (Universal CJ-5)
    55 = Open Body (Universal CJ-5 Diesel)
    74 = Open Body (Universal CJ-6)
    75 = Open Body (Universal CJ-6 Diesel) Body Style

    5th
    A = V6-225
    C = Canadian Built
    F = Station Wagon (Jeepster)
    H = Pick-up (Jeepster)
    0 = Universal (Disregard)
    0 = Roadster Open Body (Jeepster)
    S = Smog (Universal)
    8 = Universal Body Style – Special Model Code

    6th
    1 = Left Hand Drive
    2 = Right Hand Drive
    3 = LDH California, Fuel Evap Control Drive Code

    7th
    4 = F4-134 without Emission
    5 = F4-134 with Emission
    6 = V6-225 without Emission
    7 = V6-225 with Emission Engine Code

    8th – 13th ###### SSN
    (Sequential Serial Number)
     
  17. Sep 21, 2017
    fctex

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    There was also a T.P. ventilated windshield. The trim around the glass and down the middle was chrome.
     
  18. Sep 21, 2017
    kelleesimms

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    The late-'63 Mk lll Tuxes had "Tuxedo Park MKlll" hood badges

    Anyone seen one of these or, better yet, have a photo of one?
     
  19. Sep 21, 2017
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    I'm working on one of the chrome inner frames. The outer frame was rusted beyond use, but the chrome "saved" the movable portion. I have heard there was the Tux version, but never seen one. I thought someone may have had the inner frame chromed! Was this only offered for the MK lll?
    -Donny
     
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  20. Sep 21, 2017
    fctex

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    It sounds like you have one. I thought the ventilated windshield was not a USA factory option, but could be purchased at the dealer. I wonder if the TP could be purchased outside the USA and then it could have been fitted with the TP ventilated windshield? Pics would be nice! Great find!
     
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