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Rear Disk Brake/parking Brake

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Rozcoking23, Jun 7, 2022.

  1. Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    I finally got tired of my transfer case parking brake not working. I replaced the rear 11” drum brakes with Cadillac rear disks with parking brake, the brakes work great.
    The problem:
    I used the original t-handle parking brake. When I go to set the parking brakes I can’t get enough leverage to set the brakes. If I disconnect the cable from the brakes the cable and handle move with no issues. Is it possible that with the pull handle I’m not getting enough leverage to operate the parking brakes. Maybe I need to go to a foot operated type lever. What’s you opinion.
     
  2. Jw60

    Jw60 Space ranger 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    You can make a lever to apply more mechanical advantage in the cable. Handle further from fulcrum than the wheel cables.
     
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  3. SFaulken

    SFaulken Active Member

    Stand on the service brake with your foot, and *then* set the parking brake with the T-handle. That's generally been how I've handled it, and it's always worked, as long as the Parking Brake hardware and cabling was in serviceable condition.
     
  4. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Does the Cadillac parking brake use the same puck as the service brakes? Has to be for the stomp-and-pull strategy to work.
     
  5. SFaulken

    SFaulken Active Member

    This is true, I hadn't considered that.
     
  6. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    As JW60 noted you need to ad an intermediate lever to increase mechanical advantage, that's how Jeep did it when they moved to drum parking brakes in the 70's, also earlier on 2wd DJ's that didn't have the drive shaft brake.

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  7. Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    That was my thought also that I needed some sort of leverage.
    I hadn’t thought of this, I’ll try that tomorrow when I’m home.
    It does use the same puck.
    Thank you Howard
     
  8. Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    Finally got time to play with JEEP today. Tried stepping on brakes while setting the parking brake, still was unable to get to set.
    Now I’m playing with a couple ideas on incorporating some sort of arm for leverage.
     
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  9. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    Your on the right track. I did one years ago and we put a pull lever between the seats for it. I've got another set to go on the '51 when I get time.
     
  10. Buildflycrash

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  11. Bob

    Bob Member

    I did this same thing with the 11” drums I have on the rear. I’ve been happy with it.
     
  12. Rozcoking23

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  13. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    As discussed here in the past, the military M38A1 brake lever, between the seats, may be worth a look. I like it a lot better than the civilian "cane" handle. It may be the same part as the FC jeeps.
     
  14. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I used a forklift park brake handle mounted between the seats for my drum brakes. It might not be enough leverage for your discs :shrug: $60 on Ebay

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    Last edited: Jun 14, 2022
  15. amboynut

    amboynut Member

    My M422A1 Mighty Mite came with that lever, mounted vertically though. Love it. My CJ6 will have one too.
     
  16. Oldpappy

    Oldpappy A.C. Fults - Curmudgeon at large 2022 Sponsor

    Years ago we would use two floor levers to work the rear E-brakes independently, which comes in very handy when one wheel loses traction.
     
  17. Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

    There's a joke here someplace but I'm just not up to it today :(

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  18. Keys5a

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    This is an example of an Orschein brake lever. Its used for many industrial applications, as well as it came on late Willys Jeeps. I have a 1960 Wagon with one, as well as my ‘62 (or is it ‘64?) FC150, both original equipment.
    -Donny
     
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  19. Oldpappy

    Oldpappy A.C. Fults - Curmudgeon at large 2022 Sponsor

    I think the ones I used came off of old VWs.
     
  20. Rozcoking23

    Rozcoking23 RUN & GET BIT! 2024 Sponsor

    I have been looking at the floor mounted levers. I don’t know if they will provide the leverage that I need. I am also looking at foot peddle style from a CJ7, I think that might provide the leverage I need. Sitting on a beach in Maui thinking on this with beverage in hand right now, will be a minute until I get back to it.