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Updated pics of CJ5 frame restoration

Discussion in 'Builds and Fabricators Forum' started by rixcj, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. Feb 27, 2009
    rixcj

    rixcj Member

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  2. Feb 28, 2009
    kf_chris

    kf_chris Weary traveler!

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    lots of good fab work. I have no idea how bad my frame is just yet...hope I don't need a new one!
     
  3. Feb 28, 2009
    sammy

    sammy Coca-Cola?

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    Holy S*$%.... That is amazing work.
     
  4. Feb 28, 2009
    Walt Couch

    Walt Couch sidehill Cordele, Ga. 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    Like the guy said. "your not a fabricator-- your an artist" sheer beauty..
     
  5. Feb 28, 2009
    Project71-5

    Project71-5 BACON

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    Very impressive! :shock:

    Are those all TIG, or a combo or TIG and MIG?

    I would have built one out of 2x4x1/8 personally, but thats just me :beer:
     
  6. Feb 28, 2009
    rixcj

    rixcj Member

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    It's a combo of both MIG and TIG.

    A 2"x4"x1/8" thick frame would not be nearly as strong as a healthy factory ('76 and up) frame.
     
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  7. Mar 1, 2009
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    nice8) i keep thinking that i should get the tig welder out at school and play with it some
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  8. Mar 1, 2009
    jayhawkclint

    jayhawkclint ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    That is amazing work. Just thinking out loud, but now that you've done all that work to repair the frame, have you considered galvanizing to protect the inside? I'm thinking it would do better than linseed oil.
     
  9. Mar 1, 2009
    drexotic

    drexotic Happy now?!?!?

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    MAD SKILLS!

    Sweet work!
     
  10. Mar 1, 2009
    rixcj

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    You know, I have anguished over that one for a while. The pros of that probably outweigh the cons, but the upside to using Chassis Black, is that if I ever want to add-on/modify/ weld onto the frame, in the future I won't be dealing with galvanizing.

    My jeep is a fair weather, fun/cruising vehicle, that won't be exposed to harsh conditions, so hopefully the boiled linseed oil will do the trick.

    My neighbor is a gunsmith. Boiled linseed oil has been the choice of gunsmiths for years ( on wood, and metal).
     
  11. Mar 4, 2009
    TexasBlues

    TexasBlues JEEP-Hockey-Holic

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    your work is AMAZING!

    where did you learn to weld like that... or do you do it professionally?

    i hope to be able to make welds that look like their ugly cousin... at best!

    would you be open to sharing advice/tips?

    i'm gonna have to do some work to my frame as well and yours looks like a supreme sample of craftsmanship and know-how...
     
  12. Mar 4, 2009
    rixcj

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    I learned to weld like that from working at Electric Boat, a submarine building shipyard, for many years. Over the years, I was taught many different welding techniques and procedures.

    I also was a welding instructor there, as well as at a local community college. Now, I'm a self employed metal fabricator.

    Maybe this will help you out...

    http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62250

    If you want to know something that's not covered there, just ask! I'll try to help any way that I can.

    The biggest piece of advice I could give anyone is to PRACTICE!! No one wants to practice. Everyone wants to learn on the job. That can be a big mistake, in critical applications.

    Rich
     
  13. Mar 4, 2009
    neptco19

    neptco19 That guy....

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    Nice work 8). Hopefully I'll be picking up a tig machine soon so I can get some more practice in.
     
  14. Mar 5, 2009
    TexasBlues

    TexasBlues JEEP-Hockey-Holic

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    cool...

    i know electric boat... i was a squid for 5 years... airdale though...

    wow... i know i said it already... but wow... simply amazing...

    practice? heck yeah i waana practice! thats all i do! i wont touch the beast til i think im ready... shes waited this long, whats a little more?

    now im cutting holes into sheet metal and welding them back into place... and fiddling with voltages and wire speed etc... getting my gas tomorrow... i think that will help some too...

    thanks for the link Rich... when i burn a good one... i'll send YOU the pic!

    :)
     
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  15. Mar 5, 2009
    TexasBlues

    TexasBlues JEEP-Hockey-Holic

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    BTW... what exactly is a buzz box?

    im a noob!

    please dont stone me!!!
     
  16. Mar 5, 2009
    rixcj

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    I gotta tell you TB, I admire your enthusiasm! Sounds like you're on the right track, with your practicing. it's important to understand what's going on, when you're welding, not just getting a good bead, by luck, and not really "getting it".

    If I can help you in any way, please feel free to ask!

    Rich
     
  17. Mar 5, 2009
    rixcj

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    A buzz box is a plug-in stick welding machine. There are ones with just AC output, or better one$ with AC/DC output. You need one with DC output to do TIG welding.
     
  18. Mar 6, 2009
    TexasBlues

    TexasBlues JEEP-Hockey-Holic

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    like a plug in plain ol arc welder... ? :?

    yeah Rich, i actually LIKE to practice... im gonna build a table this weekend i think and maybe a cart soon... welding on the ground isnt the most comfortable place...

    i DID weld my mechanics seat together yesterday... cuz the wheels wouldnt stay on it... and its thin... so i wanted to try it on something like that...

    i built a piece of gate too for the fence around my shop...

    i think so far, my biggest need is getting my travelling speed right... sometimes they look real good... and sometimes they look like something youd find in the bottom of a cat box... :rofl:

    Thanks again Rich... im sure i'll be sending you lots of questions and some pix from time to time
     
  19. Mar 6, 2009
    Gwillys

    Gwillys 1953 CJ3B

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    OMG!! those are awsome welds. Im gonna need some more practice. Very nice looking work there, you are inspiring.
     
  20. Mar 6, 2009
    rixcj

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    What brand of MIG welder do you have? What diameter wire are you using?

    Consistency of your travel speed is very important for getting a uniform weld bead. Always hold the MIG gun with two hands. It kills me when I see these guys holding the gun with one hand, welding away. That would be like shooting pool with one hand on the cue stick.

    Also, whenever possible, push the mig gun, as opposed to pulling it. The bead will penetrate better, and the shielding gas will always be clearing a path ahead of where you're welding.

    Have fun!

    Rich
     
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