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jeep2003 · Sep 30, 2022

PeteL said: ↑

There is a middle ground.

In place of a Dealer Certified part, someone who understands the underlying engineering needs of the application may legitimately and safely use a functional equivalent.

That might even be a nail, for instance. There is nothing magic about a cotter pin.

There was an analysis of this in "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" by Robert Pirsig, where he pointed out that a piece of beer can worked perfectly well as a shim, but it freaked out his buddy.
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I use spray paint cans as shim material all the time. Its steel rather than aluminum so it holds up better and no galvanic corrosion

PeteL · Sep 30, 2022

jeep2003 said: ↑

I use spray paint cans as shim material all the time. Its steel rather than aluminum so it holds up better and no galvanic corrosion
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When I started driving Jeeps, beer cans were steel....

PeteL · Sep 30, 2022

47v6 said: ↑

I finally read that book a couple years ago. I was dismayed to hear of the esteemed authors demise because I missed the opportunity to slap his sanctimonious, self centered face. I thought about digging his body up and slapping his corpse a bit, but he wasn’t even worth the effort. It seems like that book he wrote does that with every turned page… what absolute trash..
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danielbuck · Oct 5, 2022

nickmil said: ↑

I don’t get why if you have the correct stuff to half arse something. Nothing funny about it. In the automotive business we have a name for that but I cannot repeat that here. They work, until they fail and cause a catastrophe.
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I just like to see people's reactions.

nickmil said: ↑

So if you take your vehicle into a shop and have the suspension or steering worked on you want to see it come back with nails instead of cotter pins installed? nails vary so much in strength, hardness, etc. that they are simply not dependable as a fastener except for their intended purpose. You did that in my shop (and any reputable shop I know) and you would be fired in about 10 seconds. And again, It calls into question about any other work done on the vehicle. Appearances matter whether we like it or not.
Another thought, many organized trail runs I’ve been on have had safety inspections. Things like that were red flags that precluded vehicles from being allowed on the run.
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I have in no way said it's the correct way to do it. and I'll stay clear of your "trail" runs

nickmil said: ↑

So if you take your vehicle into a shop and have the suspension or steering worked on
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I don't let anyone else touch my jeeps. they might be scared of nails

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