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Novak Headers And Exhaust Pipe Sizing

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Norcal69, Jul 17, 2021.

  1. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    My rusted out old fenderwell headers have finally bit the dust. They were 20yrs old when I bought the jeep and I have hated them from day one. I have welded them up numerous times, patched them.... ect...
    This last Rubicon run popped the thermometer on that turkey.......
    I just pulled the trigger on a set of Novak Buick v6 headers. I am trying to decide what diameter pipe I should use to route the exhaust. I am looking at 16 ga stainless tube.....

    I am trying to decide what route to go.....
    2" from header flange into y pipe and 2.25" into muffler
    2.25" into y pipe and 2.25" into muffler
    2.25" into y pipe and 2.5" into muffler

    I am looking for a breathable yet quiet exhaust system. I plan to run the biggest muffler I can fit under the floor board. Tail pipe will exit out one rear side and will be either 2.25" or 2.5" diameter.
     
  2. colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

    Do the headers come with collectors? What size are they?
     
  3. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    What is the sizing of the system now?
     
  4. supertrooper

    supertrooper Member

    I did 2" from the collectors to the y then 2 1/4" for the rest
     
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  5. jeepdaddy2000

    jeepdaddy2000 Active Member

    The collector is 2.5". Why not simply stay with that diameter throughout the system instead of necking the pipes down pre Y, then opening them back up?
    Depending on where you have your crossover, I would recommend at lest one more flange in the system. The best place is usually just after the Y. This will allow you to disassemble the system so it can be removed/installed in sections, add access to the starter, well as ease of access to the transmission/t case.
     
  6. definitely.
     
  7. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    The headers are 2.5" at the collector.
     
  8. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Right now I have fenderwell headers with 2.5" into mufflers and 2" piping out the back on each side.
     
  9. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    There will be a couple V band clamps in the system to allow easy install and removal.
     
  10. Keys5a

    Keys5a Sponsor

    The Dauntless is not exactly a high performance engine. It will breathe fine with dual 2" exhausts. Larger wouldn't hurt, but not really necessary unless your turning high rpm, like 4500+.
    -Donny
     
  11. 45es

    45es Active Member 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    If I read your post correctly, it appears you are wanting to go from dual exhaust to a single exhaust out the back. With that, I believe 2" run from the headers into a wye pipe and then into the muffler will work. After the muffler, a 2 1/4" tail pipe should be adequate.

    This Website may be of some help to you.

    How To Calculate Muffler Size and Exhaust Pipe Diameter | Exhaust Videos
     
  12. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I am thinking 2" from the headers into a y pipe, exit the y pipe with 2.25" and go into the muffler, exit muffler 2.25" and out the back.
     
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  13. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    That's what I'm thinking
     
  14. jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

    On my 71' I couldn't find a good way to cross over where it wouldn't get crushed. I ended up going around the front of the oil pan from passenger to driver. Everything was tucked up out of the way.
     
  15. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    That is the route I am going to try to go.
    Any chance you have some old pics of your setup?
     
  16. jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

    I do, let me dig them up. May be a thread on here somewhere also. I used a bunch of pipe and bends from Summit.
     
  17. jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

    Did a search on my exhaust thread and got the dreaded 404 error. Here is 1 pic of how it went around the oil and and caught the collector. I will get the rest off my portable hard drive. Should I email them to you?
     

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  18. jzeber

    jzeber Well-Known Member 2022 Sponsor

    A few more, still searching for all of them.
     

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  19. Norcal69

    Norcal69 Out of the box thinker 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I'd love to see them if you have time! Do you still have my Email?
     
  20. what's this Ehaust you speak of?