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Looking for Optima Battery part #

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by CableBob, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. CableBob

    CableBob Member

    Hi, going to purchase two new batteries for my 53' M38a1, it has been converted to 12 volts, and was wondering if anyone has the part or model number for the Deep Cycle Optima Battery that will fit inside the cowl battery box. Or maybe there a much better battery out there that will fit? Please let me know your opinion.
     
  2. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    "Deep cycle" is not appropriate for a battery used for starting, as I understand it. Heavy discharge rates are damaging to them - and a normally a vehicle battery is should never cycle below about 60% capacity.

    Traditionally, deep cycle is for slow discharge, but extended use, like a golf cart, fishing motor, or lights in an RV. Maybe optima is different. Some batteries now are sold as combination types but I have my doubts.



    From the Optima website -

    "Starting Lighting Ignition (SLI) batteries excel in high start output where only light surface cycling takes place.

    Deep-Cycle batteries are designed for applications that require deep, repetitive amperage drain, like trolling motors, electric wheelchairs, RV house power."
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2013
  3. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    If it has been converted to 12 volts why do you want to buy 2? You only need 1, unless you just want 2 in parallel for the extra amps.
     
  4. CableBob

    CableBob Member

    I have two batteries because I can. One battery starts and run the Jeep only and the other is a deep cycle battery and it runs all of the accessories, such as Warn winch, Power inverter, lights, welder. etc you NEVER hook up all of those accessories to your "start battery", you can, but if it fails you walk. The batteries I have had died and want to upgrade to Optima hence the post.
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2013
  5. Heatseeker

    Heatseeker Member

    I run an Optima yellow top(deep cycle) in a jetboat. It is only used for starting the engine as there are no other accessories installed. I just installed a new one last year. The last only lasted 9 years...
     
  6. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Sounds like you have a handle on things, I had considered doing the same thing, just never did. You definitely have the right idea. Sorry I don't have any numbers for the Optima size. :coffee:
     
  7. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Yellow top is type sold as the "dual purpose," not a full-on deep cycle.
     
  8. CableBob

    CableBob Member

    It looks like Yellow Top is the ticket! Just checked out a video on Youtube and they went through the three colors Red, Yellow and Blue but the case color is the key, dark gray is for starting, light gray is deep cycle. The yellow, like you said, is a dual purpose. Thanks, now just need to find the dimensions of the Yellow top batteries and I'll be set....
     
  9. joe51

    joe51 Member

    You might want to do some more research before buying Optima batteries. They had a GREAT reputation,,,, up until about four years ago before they were taken over by (IIIRC!) Johnson Controls. Since then they haven't been so great!
     
  10. supertrooper

    supertrooper Member

  11. CableBob

    CableBob Member

    Supertrooper this what I've been looking for, thanks!
    Joe51 I've been reading the same thing and the reviews are not that promising, might have to back up and do more research.
     
  12. duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

    Yep!! First red top I had in my 3B lasted 10 years, the second 6 months. Will not be buying another Optima (running an Odyssey now).

    And I do run everything off one battery, including the welder. To me, having dual batteries is just packing around another 60-70 lbs of unnecessary weight.
     
  13. Heatseeker

    Heatseeker Member

    Diehards used to be made by Johnson Controls as well. I used to unload the trucks at a Sears Auto Center I worked at out of high school.

    I don't know if that holds true today or not.
     
  14. CableBob

    CableBob Member

    When I was a kid Die Hard was THE battery to own. The Platinum seems to be one of their best battery. I'll have to check out Odyssey haven't heard about them in the past. The two batteries comes from my Cable Television days, if your battery fails on your bucket truck and you are in the middle of no where you are stuck there until you are rescued. I apply this logic to my Jeep. Besides, it came from the factory that way, so why not?
     
  15. nickmil

    nickmil In mothballs.

    I have to agree that Optima quality is low compared to what it once was. The last two Ive had didn't last long.
    Odyssey is a very good quality battery. Price in the past has been high but they are finally becoming affordable for the average Joe.


    Sent from my iPhone
     
  16. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    I had two Optimas that were great, as well as a fleet of Postal vehicles running them. Then a number of years ago, the Optimas I started installing in the fleet were short lived, unreliable junk.
     
  17. Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

    Speaking of Johnson Controls, seems like I read Interstate batteries are also made by Johnson Controls. Costco sells Interstate, are they not so great?
     
  18. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    I've had one or two interstates in a Harley. They seemed no better or worse than anything else.