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Pusher Fan Necessary?

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by DKLEIND, Aug 31, 2023.

  1. Aug 31, 2023
    DKLEIND

    DKLEIND New Member

    Sawpit, CO
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    Hey y’all,

    long time lurker with a ‘72 304. Previous owner had a cheapo plastic tiny aux pusher fan mounted with those rad ties in addition to a pretty small 5 spoke mechanical fan (no shroud). It ran a little hot (previous owner put a 160 thermostat in there), I don’t think I’ve ever gotten it past 220/230 but man it can heat up when crawling through the desert.

    Just got a new oem style brass/copper rad from summit racing, an omix shroud, a 19” 6 blade mech flex fan, and an electric permacool 14” fan to use as a pusher up front w an intake sensor to kick the fan on at 195, and a 180 degree thermostat

    Went to put everything together, and I just realized that with the rad mounted I only have maybe 3.25 in to the grill. Can’t fit the permacool fan in there, or this other plastic flexalite fan I had sitting around. How is everyone else getting a pusher in there? Saw someone even had the 14” permacool fan I have, and it’s supposed to be 3.75 in thick!

    The original fan I have on the cj has a 2.5 in spacer, and I ordered a 2 in spacer for the new mechanical fan. Should I try to put some .5in risers on the rad mount bolts to squeeze the fan in there?

    Or will the jeep be fine without the electric fan w the new shroud and mech fan? Really just wanted it in there for peace of mind. No idea what temps she’ll run though until she’s back together.

    Thanks y’all.
     

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  2. Sep 1, 2023
    C-dubb

    C-dubb 1961 CJ5 restomod

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    Try it and see what happens.
     
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  3. Sep 1, 2023
    colojeepguy

    colojeepguy Colorado Springs

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    I would think that would be perfectly fine for a 304, even without the electric fan.
     
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  4. Sep 1, 2023
    DKLEIND

    DKLEIND New Member

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    sweet, thanks guys, puttin it back together without the electric fan for now.
     
  5. Sep 1, 2023
    Fireball

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    I agree. I have a Buick 350 in my '71 with a 17" low-profile flex fan, an aluminum radiator similarly sized to an intermediate, and a shroud. I can run the Jeep in 104 degree weather and It never gets hot even in normal usage. If I'm crawling up a hill in low range at 104 degrees, I shift down a gear to keep the RPM over 1500 so the fan works and it still stays cool. I think you'l lbe fine without the electric if you do a shroud.
     
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  6. Sep 2, 2023
    duffer

    duffer Rodent Power

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    Yep. Should be all you need. Throw a bottle of water wetter in there too. I do much prefer aluminum radiators over brass. Way more efficient at exchanging heat.
     
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  7. Sep 12, 2023
    DKLEIND

    DKLEIND New Member

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    Thanks everyone for all the replies! Finally got the jeep back together. had a bunch of other projects going on so it sat on the back burner for a while. Been testing the cooling system and it seems to be idling just fine at the thermostat opening temp in 90 degree weather on the driveway…. I have yet to take it out on the road (had the whole dash off) but seems like it’s staying cool!
     
  8. Sep 12, 2023
    DKLEIND

    DKLEIND New Member

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    Was checking out at the parts store and saw the water wetter, tossed it in for the heck of it
     
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  9. Sep 12, 2023
    Dwins1

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    I used to have a 68 MGB that would heat up. I used water wetter and it helped a lot
     
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