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no power/pickup at low speed

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by nyejos11, Jun 28, 2006.

  1. Jun 28, 2006
    nyejos11

    nyejos11 Member

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    My 225 has fairly slow pickup at low speeds.It has HEI at 5 deg before, automatic trans. and 3.73 gears. Vacuum guage readings of 7-10 pounds at idle to 1000 and fluttering guage needle(carb and manifold checked). What to do?

    Josh
     
  2. Jun 28, 2006
    SRedinger

    SRedinger Member

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    The usual-
    Get fresh gasoline-- highest octane
    Clean/replace the fuel filter, and Clean the carb.
    Check compression
    Check spark
    Change spark plugs and wires

    Try different timing

    Check to see if the timing chain in good shape-- listen for slap noise.


    and all that Jazz
     
  3. Jun 28, 2006
    nyejos11

    nyejos11 Member

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    Gas-last week
    plug wires-2 months
    carb-reman last winter
    timing chain+gears-last winter
    compression-last fall-around 100 lowest, 115 highest
    air+fuel filter within last year, air filter looks clean

    It does have decent power once the RPM's get going, just no umph getting started.
     
  4. Jun 28, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    vac advance ?
    is it working?
    hooked up properly ?
     
  5. Jun 28, 2006
    Super Dave CJ6

    Super Dave CJ6 Super Dave

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    maybe you got a bananna in the tail pipe!!!R) R) R) R) R)
     
  6. Jun 28, 2006
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    Has it been rebuilt? If so, what cam was put in it?
     
  7. Jun 29, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    vac reading at idle way too low
    unless you are on top of Mt Everest
    cam ? good question
     
  8. Jun 29, 2006
    66cj5

    66cj5 Jeep with no name

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    sounds like a vacuum leak to me. when the :v6: is running, LIGHTLY spray some carb cleaner around the carb. IF the :v6: speeds up a leak is present.
     
  9. Jun 29, 2006
    willysnut

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    Maybe it's an Fhead!
     
  10. Jun 29, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    225 F-head? :hurrican:
     
  11. Jun 29, 2006
    PeteL

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    I second the motion to check that the vacuum advance is working. -the timing needs to be retarded for low rpm power acceleration.

    The very (too) low vacuum readings ought to be keeping the timing retarded though, maybe too much? Why so low, and why fluttering? Sticking valves? Or is timing *way* off?

    Intake leaks may tend to show up as stumbling under quick acceleration/load.

    Possibly try dialing the distributor timing up and down a little and see what happens.

    Pete
     
  12. Jun 30, 2006
    electricontr

    electricontr Member

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    Cam chain off 1 tooth?
     
  13. Jun 30, 2006
    Southtowns27

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    The fluttering and low vacuum reading is a sign that something is wrong. You could have valves hanging open or a vacuum leak. If the engine was recently rebuilt, someone could have put pushrods in it that are too long and aren't letting the valves close completely.
     
  14. Jun 30, 2006
    nyejos11

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    I've ordered new intake manifold gaskets and will probably get them/intall tomorrow. It is a new timing chain and gears. It seemed to work fine after I installed those. The gaskets were from PO. If I install those and can't find any other vac leaks I guess my next step will be to check the timing/ vacuum advance again.

    Josh
     
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