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what the heck is my jeep,ARGH!!

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by nuttcase5fan, Aug 21, 2006.

  1. Aug 21, 2006
    nuttcase5fan

    nuttcase5fan nuttcase5fan

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    I have a friend who has only driven jeep's since getting his DL in '75. He say's my jeep is NOT a jeep since some factory parts are AMC and the running gear is Kiaser? The listed rollout date is august 70 but the truck was special order and didn't make it out of the factory till january 71. delivery was march 3rd, 71. It was never changed or modified untill I got it last year so I know what it had stock and I have the build sheet on it that my grandpa got when he picked it up at the dealership.
     
  2. Aug 21, 2006
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Not to be a jerk about it...but your friend needs to read up on Jeep history prior to getting his license.

    You have a transitional year Jeep.
     
  3. Aug 21, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    it's a Jeep
    with an AMC emblem on the tailgate
     
  4. Aug 21, 2006
    Glenn

    Glenn Kinda grumpy old man Staff Member

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    How could it not be a JEEP? Even those Daimler/Chrysler things are called Jeeps. R)
     
  5. Aug 21, 2006
    Mcruff

    Mcruff Earlycj5 Machinist

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    Sorry Boyink is right your friend needs to educate himself al ittle better, obviously he doesn't know 1/2 of what he thinks he knows. Even as a transitional year there wasn't much if any parts on that Jeep that AMC designed. The design was already set in stone about 2 years before it was built. In those days it took on average 3-5 years to design an entire vehicle. So even with AMC's purchase of Kaiser they would have had little time to make any major improvements. They were to busy redesigning the jeep for the 72 model year, and even then it wasn't a total redesign.
     
  6. Aug 21, 2006
    MCSCOTT

    MCSCOTT Member

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    It's a Jeep, and I don't really see how anyone could say it wasn't. Heck, apparently to alot of people, my Samurai and my EB were both Jeeps.:rofl:
     
  7. Aug 21, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    What is it if it's not a Jeep? R)
     
  8. Aug 21, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    a Jeep is a Jeep of course, of course.......
     
  9. Aug 21, 2006
    nuttcase5fan

    nuttcase5fan nuttcase5fan

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    To me I think he's just jealous since he has a yj that don't do half what me little stock cj can. BTW this is what it came with, tell me if this is "The Best offered" as my other buddy say's.

    83" WB
    225 dauntie
    t98 4speed
    d18 transfer twin stick
    flanged dana 27 front 3.72, 44 flanged offset set at 3.73 posi
    and NO AMC emblems anywhere on the jeep!
     
  10. Aug 21, 2006
    sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

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    83" wheelbase? You've stretched it? Should be '81".

    '71s do have AMC emblems on them from the factory. Prolly just came off or was removed along the way.
     
  11. Aug 21, 2006
    jd7

    jd7 Sponsor

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    He's driving a Jeep with square headlights and a wheel bolt circle from a Ford car and mini vans and he's telling you your's insn't a real JEEP.:rofl: (sorry Jerry:oops::D )
     
  12. Aug 21, 2006
    60CJ6

    60CJ6 BFH Guy

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    Real Jeeps have round headlights
     
  13. Aug 21, 2006
    nuttcase5fan

    nuttcase5fan nuttcase5fan

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    just drove the 70 cj for the first time. I don't care what anyone says about how ugly it is, I LOVE IT!!!R) R) just to be behind the wheel of a jeep........ oh boy!

    I agree that jeep's should have round headlights, but aslong as it's a jeep jeep and not a cherokee or "liberty":smash: (I've only seen Nellies in those)then it must be a Jeep!:beer:
     
  14. Aug 21, 2006
    org1970cj5

    org1970cj5 New Member

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    After AMC purchased Kaiser in January of 1970, dealers started putting small, about 1" square AMC emblems on the tail gates. My 70 Renegade I has one. They remained on the 71's also. The 71's just got VIN tags that read Jeep Corperation instead of Kaiser. The 4 speed tranny was a special order item and hard to find. I say keep it, restore it to original condition and run circles around the YJ's. Just my .02 worth.
    Robert
    70 CJ5 RI
    71 CJ5 RII
     
  15. Aug 21, 2006
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    Heyheyhey! They're not THAT bad! Don't know that I'd run out and buy one, though. Since I've been with my current employer, I've had a '98 Cherokee, a 2000 Cherokee, and they just gave me a new '06 Liberty. Plus they pay all the gas, maint. and parking costs. That kinda eases the shame of being seen in one a little.R)
     
  16. Aug 21, 2006
    nuttcase5fan

    nuttcase5fan nuttcase5fan

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    My girlfriend has the ULTIMATE Libby with everything you can order and she can't get over things that my stock 71 cj5 gets over in 2 wheel drive with an open diff! But as a street SUV I can see a use for it, maybe as a speed bump, just kidding. those things are by no means designed for real off-road use so I guess they are okfor what they CAN do!:rofl:
     
  17. Aug 21, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    AMC emblems were factory installed, not by the dealer as I recall.
     
  18. Aug 21, 2006
    kamel

    kamel Senior Curmudgeon

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    You have a modified jeep. Dana 18 t/c did not come with dual levers in 71.

    If you have the t-98 then it was modified to go behind your v-6

    The jeep had a v-6 from the factory

    Flanged rear axle was stock in 71

    Sounds interesting.

    I'd say you have a JEEP and your buddy has a JOOP with "E" decals.
     
  19. Aug 21, 2006
    HortonHearsAWhoJeep

    HortonHearsAWhoJeep Member

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    If it looks like a jeeps, runs like a Jeep, drives like a Jeep, & smells like a Jeep, I'd be inclined to say it's a Jeep. Tell your buddy to join this site & let the schoolin' begin!
     
  20. Aug 22, 2006
    nuttcase5fan

    nuttcase5fan nuttcase5fan

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    the problem is this jeep IS all origional since I have the origional Special Order build sheet that my grandpa got with the jeep. He ordered it with the dual stick and t98and it took a long time to get it done AT THE FACTORY. The truck was also ordered in OD flat green.
     
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