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Brakes

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by dkg4244, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. dkg4244

    dkg4244 New Member

    So I was driving today and my brake pedal went soft. My dad took the Jeep out for a spin about an hour before I did and he said the brakes were pretty bad. It had been sitting for a few days prior to us taking it out but I'm not sure what would cause it to go soft. The fluid level could have been low and it could have sucked air into the system because I don't see any leaks in the system at all. How do I get the cover off the master cylinder, and does anyone have any other thoughts? Thanks
     
  2. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    What year? Stock? Remove the access plate on the floor and unscrew the cap on the master cylinder. Also check for brake fluid leaks at the wheel cylinders..
     
  3. jasonjp62

    jasonjp62 Member

    That where mine always seemed to leak before the 11' drums. At the wheel cylinders.
     
  4. dkg4244

    dkg4244 New Member

    It's a 59 with the stock master cylinder. I'll look at the wheel cylinders. If they were leaking, would the fluid bleed past the brake drum and drip onto the floor? My friend also said the seals in the master cylinder could be junk too since it's original. Maybe it's time for a brake upgrade.
     
  5. 47willys

    47willys Member

    Surely the master cylinder can't be 50 years old and still working-or just recently failed-could it?
     
  6. Walt Couch

    Walt Couch sidehill Cordele, Ga. 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    It could be that it is by-passing inside the master. If fluid level is good then that is what's going on.
     
  7. PeteL

    PeteL If it wasn't for physics, and law enforcement... 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    Is it soft, like spongy feeling, or is it more like a long pedal travel? If it will "pump up" until hard it could be that shoes need adjusting.
     
  8. dkg4244

    dkg4244 New Member

    Ok so the problem was the master cylinder cover has a very small pinhole in the top, allowing fluid to leak out. I filled it up and bled the brakes and everything was good. I couldn't find leaks anywhere else. Is there a way to patch this small hole, or do I have to get a whole new master cylinder? A dab of JB Weld maybe?
     
  9. EricM

    EricM Active Member

    Isn't there a vent hole in the cap? Do you see alot of fluid coming out of it? You might want to pull the drums and look for leaky wheel cylinders if you don't see any other obvious brake fluid leaks.
     
  10. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    That hole is the vent. It's supposed to be there.
     
  11. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    Yes, look at the brake backing plates for wetness. The fluid does not just disappear. Likely you have a leaky wheel cylinder.
     
  12. w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

    They also do not always leak outside the backing plate, more often they leak on the inside for a LONG time before they show anything outside.

    Pull those drums ASAP IMO.
     
  13. dkg4244

    dkg4244 New Member

    Ok i will not plug that hole. Thanks for pointing that out I feel dumb. I suspect the master cylinder was low for a very long time. The PO definitley never touched it so I have no idea when it was topped off. It's still maintaining the fluid level so it's not leaking fast. I'll pull the drums off when I get home from school sometime next weekend and we'll see. Man I hate being in a dorm 3 and a half hours from my Jeep.
     
  14. cookieman

    cookieman Member

    if brake fluid is leaking from the vent. he has air in the lines, the air is blowing the fuild back out the vent