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Renegade 1 Or 2

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by rossbos, Jun 30, 2007.

  1. mortten

    mortten I can’t put my finger on it 2024 Sponsor 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

    :?:?:?:?Wondering the same.
     
  2. beeser

    beeser Member

    My guess, highly unlikely and most of all, not practical at that time. Here's just a few hurdles to accomplish what you're wonderin' ...
    Standard spare tire carrier bracket abandoned and replaced with the Renegade type carrier. Might have been tough getting the factory to leave out the standard side carrier bracket and even tougher filling in the side mounting holes.
    Replace main and engine wiring harness with Renegade harnesses. Not as tough as above but why would anyone want to go through the trouble?
     
  3. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    I would have to agree, I was just wondering out-loud.

    You could duplicate one in the way that many GTO Judges or other rare musclears are made. To looks only but not down to every last little detail like the wiring harness, etc. Guessing it was nigh impossible with it being a factory option that included special stuff.
     
  4. jeepboy71

    jeepboy71 New Member

    My Renegade 1 was built August 1970, titled 1971. Has a tailgate, rear gas tank, charcoal hood center, red in main color, 15x8 KH steel wheels.
     
  5. jeepboy71

    jeepboy71 New Member

    here's another tid bit on my Sept. 1970 built R1. I just read the 1972 color codes. My color code is 226, which is listed as Presidential Red in 1972. When I can I will get the VIN and post it. Will that help decipher if mine was really an R1 from the factory?
     
  6. beeser

    beeser Member

    In short, no. The R1 didn't have a special VIN. But there are others ways to tell, which is why this topic comes up often. A search on this site will lead you to some clues. Or post some pics and folks here will probably help.
     
  7. Chuck

    Chuck Sponsor

    Mike, here is a pic of my wheel well pad on my Ren II. There are two snaps, one on each end of the pad.

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  8. timgr

    timgr We stand on the shoulders of giants. 2022 Sponsor

    I would have said Orange and the Yellow-Green, whatever they called it. Not Plum - I don't remember seeing a Plum Jeep in '72, and I was spending a lot of time at the dealership then. Maybe the factory sales literature will provide another data point, if you can find it.

    Here's the '72 PPG color sheet showing 4 different 999 code colors http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1972-jeep-pg01.jpg Plum poly, Baja Yellow, Mint Green, Riverside Orange - recall that the colors were named after the racing events at the time. Maybe no one wanted a purple Jeep, and that's why I don't remember any Plum ones :?
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2008
  9. OverEngineer

    OverEngineer Member

    I have a 70 R 1 -- How are the vinyl seats holding up. I have the pinstripe inserts and the driver seat needs to be fixed
     
  10. OverEngineer

    OverEngineer Member

    how were you able to determine the month and year of manufacture and the proper color of your jeep?
     
  11. OverEngineer

    OverEngineer Member

    If a 1970 CJ5 was red, would it then, by definition not be a renegade? I thought the funky colors only started in 71 or 72
     
  12. Zoomer

    Zoomer eJeeper (walking)

    If you have the VIN, we can get pretty close for you.

    Was your Jeep repainted? There was a member here from Iowa, I think thunderbolt, that had a Renegade he painted red. Does your Jeep have a paint and trim code on the firewall, in engine compartment, passenger side?
     
  13. OverEngineer

    OverEngineer Member

    Thanks for the response. The paint has been touched up, however, it really seems that this jeep was President Red.

    The Jeep came out of Oregon. If the paint and trim code was a sticker under the Kaiser Jeep Corporation metal tag, it's gone. I can see where a sticker had been in place.. Is that the right place to look or is that data found some where else?

    The VIN number is 8305017 360041

    I would love any help you can provide in determining what this should be.
    Thanks!
     
  14. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    http://earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444
     
  15. OverEngineer

    OverEngineer Member

    THANKS

    Thanks to your hard work and document, I now know that my engine was built March 30th 1968 and my Jeep was probably built in early Aug 1969
     
  16. jeepboy71

    jeepboy71 New Member

    My 71 Renegade I is red with the charcoal hood center. Mine was built in August of 1970, but titled and licensed as a 1971. My uncle baught the Jeep new, so, we are pretty sure that this is how it left the factory.
     
  17. Zoomer

    Zoomer eJeeper (walking)

    Early '71's seem to be Renegade I's instead of Renegade II's, we've seen a few examples here. Does yours have a tailgate? How about a Paint-Trim tag (care to share the numbers)?

    Would you mind sharing the VIN for the VIN project (either in the VIN thread or through PM)?

    http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444
     
  18. jeepboy71

    jeepboy71 New Member

    Mine does have the tailgate. Here we go...... Paint code on my 71 Renegade I is 226, Trim code is 340, and the VIN is 8305017366928. My Jeep is licensed and titled as a 1971 with an August 1970 build date
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2009
  19. jeepboy71

    jeepboy71 New Member

    do you know what dealer yours came from? Mine is an August 1970 built 1971 Renegade I that was bought at Kohlers Motors in Seattle.
     
  20. tiger2

    tiger2 New Member

    my 2nd ren1 was rolled out in june 1970, purple,, but also used to have a smog pump on it ,the sticker says, applicable to 71 model year new vehicle standards, as i see it 71 was the time all cars HAD to have emissions devices on them. also remember ralph nadder? he was fighting hard to ban cj5s for rollovers, and gas tanks under the seats. amc i think knew it was coming moved the tank for 1970, added smog pump, and later built the cj6 . to my recolection..