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Firewall Follies v. 2.0

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Howard Eisenhauer, Mar 27, 2006.

  1. Mar 27, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    Thanks to everybody who provided input on my request for comments/corrections for my firewall diagram a few weeks back.

    I've incorporated them into this version-

    [​IMG]

    There's still a few items I'd like to get cleared up for the final version so-

    -If any of you know what any of the "?" holes are for or exactly when they appeared I'd appreaciate hearing from you :)

    -If I've missed anything you think should be there.

    -I'd also like to know when the heater with the vacume control system appeared so I can label those drawings-


    I've put in inch scales but things arn't 100% accurate yet, that will be in the final (hopefully that will be the next one) version .

    Again, an editable BMP version of this drawing is available Here


    Thanks,

    H.
     
  2. Mar 27, 2006
    Rondog

    Rondog just hangin' out

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    "Click".."Save".."Print"!!! You da man Howard! That looks great! My passenger side firewall looks like someone used it for .50 cal and 20mm target practice, the worst part of my whole tub. Too many different heaters over the years, I guess.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. Mar 27, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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    looking thru the eraly parts manuals at all the spec equip/accessories options
    could #4 be for a t-handle govenor control cable ?
    also they show a foot operated w/s/w pump/washer kit
    one of the holes would have to be for the hose from the bag to foot pump; and foot pump to the nozzle
    all I can think of

    edit: maybe you drill holes for the washer kit; it would have to be on the driver side for driver operation (duh)
     
  4. Mar 28, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    re. The governor- I considered that, I know the cable comes through there somewheres but the hole shown isn't on the v. early models. As the governor setups go back to the original 2s I would think that if thehole is for the governor cable Willys would have put it there starting in '55.

    H.
     
  5. Mar 28, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Thanks Ron, but It Ain't Done Yet so hold off on the C/S/P for a few weeks :)

    H.
     
  6. Mar 28, 2006
    termin8ed

    termin8ed I didn't do it Staff Member

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    Just out of curiosity,,,
    Been cleaning up my a1 tub the last 2 weeks so getting a little more familiar with it. I'll have it home today to get a good pic of the firewall on it.

    THe holes you have listed as M1, My tub has a cuttout on the pass side floor on the angled part for a millitary heater. I just assumed those 2 holes where for the heater hoses. THere are a couple other holes up higher that had rubber grommets in them that I would think would work better for battery cables.
    I'll post a pic later today and show you the other holes in mine.
     
  7. Mar 28, 2006
    jimmy hat

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    howard,
    awesome stuff. is this a cad drawing? if so, would you be willing to send me a 2000 compatible drawing? my firewall is like swiss cheese from the idiot p.o. so trying to rebuild it might be easier with something like this handy
     
  8. Mar 28, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Not really CAD , more like cad :).

    I did it up in MSPaint, which is sorta PC equivalent of a dull pencil & a used napkin:twisted: I purposely used Paint instead of a real CAD program because I figured virtually everybody already has it on thier PC & justabout anyone can figure out how to use it. Since the original file is in a Bit Mapped format you should be able to import it into virtually any graphics package & edit it, that BMP file can be found here-

    http://www.tantel.ca/Images/Holder/Firewall/GenericFirewall_1.bmp

    Have Fun,

    H
     
  9. Mar 28, 2006
    Mudweiserjeep

    Mudweiserjeep JEEP: Bouncy and Fun

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    You did the drawing in MS paint?:shock: WOW that is a good job!
     
  10. Mar 28, 2006
    jimmy hat

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    no kidding, i didn't think it was possible to do anything to any type of scale in paint. i might import the image and make cad drawing out of it. if i ever get anytime.:rofl:

    which leads me to this crazy question:
    anyone have a 71 to 75? tub around colorado, that i could do a little measuring on. stripped tub would be ideal but even somones driver would be helpful... need to figure out where to put the holes in my 58 to mount my 74 pedal and steering wheel.
     
  11. Mar 28, 2006
    sasquatch

    sasquatch I'm big in Japan.

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    Paint?!?!? YGBSM. That's pretty impressive! Looking forward to the finished product, will be most useful...
     
  12. Mar 31, 2006
    termin8ed

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    Ok, here's 2 pics of my firewall. One shows the pass side and the other shows the inside pass floor. I was told the millitary heater fit this opening. Never seen one to know how the heater hoses route, but I just assumed they went thru these 2 holes. Could be wrong though;)

    The top 2 holes in the pic go into the battery box. They had rubber gromlets on them also. Just figured they where for the battery cables. I think the one you have labled the drain, does go into the box, but its too high up to completly drain the box. There's no floor in my box, but it would make more sense to have the drain in the bottom panel. Again, just my $.02
     
  13. Mar 31, 2006
    grannyscj

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    Howard here's the pic. I hope it helps. If not I can e-mail you one from work over broadband at a much higher resolution. BTW the cable has already been disconnected from the carb in this pic(why its hanging down)
    View attachment 9178
     
  14. Apr 7, 2006
    grannyscj

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    Here's the pic Howard. After thinking about it and looking it over again that hole would be either choke or speedo. As you can see there are two holes grommeted the same way right next to each other. I'll get back to on that when I put it back together.
    View attachment 9360
     
  15. Apr 7, 2006
    Roboter

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    This is wonderfull. When I yanked out all the wiring, throttle and brake cables I didn't mark the holes. :shock: This templete is the lifesaver. When it's done I hope you will sticky or put in the tech section Sparky.

    Thanks Howard! :beer:
     
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    anthonyohio

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    This is a great resource! Thank you!
     
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    Howard Eisenhauer

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