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Brought Home A "1950 Flatfender"

Discussion in 'Flat Fender Tech' started by AtomicYJ, Jan 8, 2024.

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What to do with Franken Jeep?

Poll closed Feb 5, 2024.
  1. Make a CJ3A

    2 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Make an M38A1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Make a CJ5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Make two Jeeps

    2 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. Jan 8, 2024
    AtomicYJ

    AtomicYJ Sponsor

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    Bought this right before New Years
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    Thought it was minorly messed with CJ-3A. L-Head 134, T-90, Dana 18, dana 25, and Dana 41. Was shoved in a garage for 30 years.
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    Frame is in super good shape, thought it looked oddly like an early 5 frame. Pretty sure its an M38A1 frame. Shame on me for not doing better research. Never messed with flat fenders before.
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    Also has an MB motor in in with MB-382xxx serial number. Also has a Koenig PTO winch with a front/rear output PTO.
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    The tub is fairly rough, but I have a title for it.

    Question is what to do? Run it as is? Find a 3A/3B/M38 frame and make it an actual flat fender again? Use the M38A1 frame for an M38A1 or early 5? Already have a '71 Renegade II.
     
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  2. Jan 8, 2024
    Rich M.

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    Wheel it! Lots of cool stuff there.
     
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  3. Jan 8, 2024
    vtxtasy

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    Just drive it and enjoy. :D
     
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  4. Jan 8, 2024
    Daryl

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    You don't have to make it anything. The A1 frame is arguably the best universal frame ever made. My 3b is on an A1 frame. Get it running, makes sure it stops and then drive it.
     
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  5. Jan 9, 2024
    AtomicYJ

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    I do need to get it running. I would at some point like a correct flat fender. I know the M38A1 frame is the best frame pre '72.
     
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  6. Jan 9, 2024
    jeepdaddy2000

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    So, is your aim a resto project or are you simply wanting a "nice" flatty?

    The resto gives two choices.
    Replace the frame/running gear.
    Or
    Replace the body.
    Choose which way you want to go and start building your Jeep.

    If you are looking for a "nice Jeep", then you have a lot more options, since you aren't constrained by accuracy.

    Personally, I would opt for a "nice" jeep and get started on making it roadworthy.
     
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  7. Jan 9, 2024
    duffer

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    As always, what do you want to use it for?? In a lot of ways, a blank sheet of paper with some desirable parts. I know what I would be doing but that is just me----
     
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  8. Jan 9, 2024
    47v6

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    As stated, it's kind of perfect. Get it running, driving and stopping.
     
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  9. Jan 9, 2024
    Dave Deyton

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    My vote is to just get it running and drive it. Kinda cool. Maybe all different parts, but they are all Jeep.
    I tend to take them all apart for a major rebuild and then it sits, and I wish I was driving it. From now on, I will be working on running, driving, vehicles.

    Dave
     
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  10. Jan 9, 2024
    jeepstar

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    I'm say get it on the road and drive it a bit, make that your goal 1st, then revisit the "what should I do with this" pole.

    It's nice as is, no reason to tear it apart in my opinion.
     
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  11. Jan 9, 2024
    HellaSlow

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    Heck yeah! I dig the safety features of the roll bar and rear bumper!
     
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  12. Jan 9, 2024
    AtomicYJ

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    Thanks all. I will probably get it running first. I’m assuming it was converted to 12 volt. All the gauges are aftermarket.

    What I would like eventually is a nice flatty that is all flatty parts, not necessarily a correct flatty. I got to thinking since the M38A1 frame is so awesome I could do an early 5 “my way”. My Renegade II has turned into correct is the only way, and I think it would be neat to have one how I want it since it wouldn’t be rare or anything
     
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  13. Jan 16, 2024
    dozerjim

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  14. Jan 19, 2024
    Bill Linenfelser

    Bill Linenfelser New Member

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    I would get it running,stopping and steering well first off. If it was mine I would leave it as is and use it for off-roading. If you make it too nice you won’t want to take it wheeling.
     
  15. Jan 27, 2024
    Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

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    I like flatties - the blue '49 3A is on a 5 frame. Been doing it for years.
     
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  16. Feb 2, 2024
    Mike B77

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    New guy here (not new to jeeps or old car and trucks, just this forum)...I agree with others about having a little fun while you think about it's future. For me I'd build it to match the title...nothing raises more red flags than a vehicle that clearly doesn't look like what the title is calling it. With that said, Jeep's are one of the few vehicles that buyers don't care to much about that kind of stuff.

    I'm sure there are M38A1 guys that would love to have that frame with the PTO winch attached.

    Mike B77
     
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