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Shoulder Seat Belt with low back seats??

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by DanStew, Oct 1, 2005.

  1. DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

    I am thinknig bout going this route since i have a cage now and will feel better for the family to have shoudlr belts. Can you use shoudler belts with low back seats?
     
    DanStew, Oct 1, 2005
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  2. m38willys

    m38willys Jeep Vice 2024 Sponsor

    Lots of cars did Dan.
     
    m38willys, Oct 2, 2005
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  3. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    I am....
     
    Boyink, Oct 2, 2005
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  4. DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

    OK. thanks guys. gonna start looking for a a set of them.
     
    DanStew, Oct 2, 2005
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  5. Rob C

    Rob C Member

    Dan,
    Me too. I've read where it isn't a good idea, but I feel safer with the 3 point belts than with just the lap belts. Don't really feel like eating the steering wheel if something should happen. Of course I'm still riding around sitting on the gas tank.....
     
    Rob C, Oct 2, 2005
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  6. DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

    its not a gas tank... its an automatic ejection seat ;)
     
    DanStew, Oct 2, 2005
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  7. m38willys

    m38willys Jeep Vice 2024 Sponsor


    yeah, I've always felt it would be much safer for the gas tank to explode 2 feet away as opposed to underneath me:shock:
     
    m38willys, Oct 2, 2005
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  8. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    Sorry, but IMO, there is nothing wrong with the underseat tank, as long as it doesn't leak..... Maybe only because after 8 years and 45K miles, many trail miles, I haven't had a problem.....
     
    Patrick, Oct 2, 2005
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  9. sparky

    sparky Sandgroper Staff Member Founder

    I'dworry more about the steering column than the underseat gas tank. Any explosion from the gas tank will be big enough I'm guessing that it won't matter where the tank is located if it comes down to that...
     
    sparky, Oct 2, 2005
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  10. gte636p

    gte636p Member

    whatt... you don't like the stering box that comes right up next to the front bumper with a non compressible shaft coming right out to an area that many people find difficult to squeeze into?? having that hollow tube sticking out there just adds to the fun... :rofl:

    seriously, i've come to the conclusion that ant wreck in the cj will be a life changing event. i'm just making improvements so that it doesn't become that much more life changing, and the three point belts with the lowback was one of them.
     
    gte636p, Oct 2, 2005
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  11. Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

    Front bumper?? I'd be more concerned with the Ross with the column that goes into the box on the frame....
     
    Patrick, Oct 2, 2005
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  12. jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

    should be easy Dan to find the belts, mounting them might be the challenge.

    I've seen a lot of rolled Jeeps; haven't seen one that the driver was impaled on..........................that doesn't mean that it hasn't happened
    would have to be a freak accident IMO
     
    jpflat2a, Oct 2, 2005
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  13. zed

    zed Iowa- Gateway to Nebraska

    actually, that's once of the reasons i went with the cherokee column (it's collapsable) and the telescoping borg intermediate shaft and then made sure that there was an angle between the intermediate and the column as per borgeson's and aa's design guides.

    course a front end meetup with the steering column in a cj5 is gonna hurt no matter what..

    shoulder restraints sound like a good idea to me.
     
    zed, Oct 3, 2005
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  14. gte636p

    gte636p Member

    i was thinking more of hitting something with the front end the way people seem to pull out in front of me around here, and i know that front is going to crumple a little bit. the only question is whether or not i built enough angle in the shaft going to the sagi swap to make it pivot instead of coming up to meet me. only time will tell, but i'd rather leave it in the gray area for as long as possible.
     
    gte636p, Oct 3, 2005
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  15. Warloch

    Warloch Did you say Flattie??? Staff Member

    I T-Boned a Dodge Charger (years ago when they were still BIG cars) - with the way I redo the front of my jeeps I drove away, they didn't ('course the cuffs on them for DUI didn't help there either).

    I put a slip shaft in my jeeps more for the ease of installation and work later than any safety concerns.

    The key to the shoulder belt is to keep it up high enough to not compress the spine if your thrown forward, but not so high as to be able to slip out easily. Personally, I like a 4 point in a jeep as you can get tossed multiple directions.
     
    Warloch, Oct 3, 2005
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  16. etu

    etu Member

    OK, I'm ready for some seat belts with shoulder straps, Where do you get them with the necessary mounting hardware to mount on a 66 CJ5 that only came with lap belts?

    Eddy
     
    etu, Oct 3, 2005
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  17. DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

    i was thinknig bout getting mine here

    http://www.gotbelts.com/

    they seem comeplete and competative in prices. For a over the shoulder belt with retractable belt is $79 for one person. I know you can get them used, but i would rather get it new and do it right.
     
    DanStew, Oct 3, 2005
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  18. Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

    I bought a set of 4 TJ belts off eBay for ~125.00. Used, yea - I think they were from an '01 model so four years old. I figured I'd buy an '01 TJ, hop in and use the seatbelts w/o thinking twice about it...and just couldn't beat the price. Some pics of the mounting are here.

    So far I really like them.
     
    Boyink, Oct 3, 2005
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