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Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by BobFortier, Mar 30, 2006.

  1. Mar 30, 2006
    BobFortier

    BobFortier Member

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    Hello folks

    Here in Sherbrooke, PQ, the sun is showing again and about all of the snow is melted. Time to make all of these little things on the jeep before the real season begin. I need to do the timing on the engine, because of backfire issue and funny idle. Also time to remove the wheels to see what hides behind, and also I need to change the tires, so why not do it now than latter.

    Yesterday I broke two wheel studs. Let's face it, I don't think the PO remove the wheels often, that can explain the rust.

    I have two questions regarding this.

    1. What do I have to know before beginning this job ?? Any tips on what and what not do do ?? Any special tools ??? (I have a Haynes book to help)

    2. Is there a way other than sandblasting to remove surface rust on axles, frames and so on ??? I would like to paint it black, but If I have to clean surface rust before...

    p.s. anything else I should look at while I'm tearing this apart ???

    Thanks for the info, this site is a great ressource !!

    Bob in Sherbrooke, Province of Québec
     
  2. Mar 30, 2006
    duke54

    duke54 Member

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    Hi bob good to hear from you again cant realy help you out much but im sure some one will chime in do you get down to jackman much Duke
     
  3. Mar 30, 2006
    grannyscj

    grannyscj Headed to the Yukon

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    You'll have to pull the hub. The Haynes should help for that. Its not hard, just a nut and bearings, I think. I don't have a Intermediate so others will help better. As far as the rust goes, two products come to mind. Eastwood Rust Encapsulator (which I haven't used) and POR-15 (which I have). Both are quality products and could be used over the rust after wire brushing off the loose stuff. Look for POR-15 at www.porstore.com and ERE at www.eastwood.com.:v6:
     
  4. Mar 30, 2006
    lynn

    lynn Time machine / Early CJ5 HR Rep Staff Member

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    For rust on the axles, etc, I used a wire wheel on a drill, got off the rust as best I could. Applied some primer followed by "Chassis black". No rust reappearance after 5 years.
    Google: Chassis Black for different brands/sources.

    Get a spindle nut socket, about 10 bux from www.4wd.com
    Much better than the hammer and chisel method. And the back of the socket doubles nicely as a seal driver for pinion seals, tcase output seals, inner axle seals.

    After installing new bearings and you're ready to install the spindle nuts/washers...
    Tighten the inner nut to 50 ft lbs to seat the bearings/races. Back it off a half turn. Retighten to 50 ft lbs. Back it off 1/6 of a turn (one flat of the nut). Check the feel (wobble, rotation). Install the outer washer/nut, tighten to 50 ft/lbs. Check the feel again when you install the wheel. :)
     
  5. Mar 30, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

    Howard Eisenhauer Administrator Staff Member

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    Bob, Eastwood products are hard (maybe impossible) to find in Canada :(. You may be able to find them at one of the Big Box places across the border from you-

    POR15 has an outlet in Montreal-

    http://www.por15canada.com/.

    POR doesn't stand up well cosmeticly to sunlight, this may be an issue for you on the front axle -

    As stated you'll have to clean the grease/crud/loose scale of of your axles otherewise you'll be back in the same condition in a few years:cry:

    I blasted mine-

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    & POR'd

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    I actually primered over them as I'll be painting them 'cause they looked a bit too shiny for my tastes & the aforementioned sunlight issues.

    H.
     
  6. Mar 30, 2006
    timgr

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    There are lots of different brands of MCU (moisture cured urethane), like Eastwood, out there ... they have different proprietary fillers, but I expect they are basically the same. Something like RustBullet, Zerorust, etc. will be available in Canada. You can also clean and prep with a rust convertor like Naval Jelly, whose active ingredient is phosphoric acid. This will change the oxidation state of the rust to make it inert, then you can choose a top coat of enamel or whatever. I wouldn't use Rustoleum though - I've found that, even when fully dry, it's rather soft. Check your local ag supply for tractor paint or something like that.
     
  7. Mar 30, 2006
    LYKOS

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    Use one of these type cup brushes on an angle grinder.

    My first experience with rust removal was laying on my back under a 65 Mustang. Went through wire wheels, sanders and just baout anything else I could think of. This combination by far worked the best. Get the cup brush with the cable style braids. Much more durable.

    Use the t handle on the angle grinder also. I still have the scar on my finger from the time I thought "Hey! I don't need that."

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  8. Mar 30, 2006
    wsg

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    Just a qucik thought.. if your pulling hubs, get some snap ring pliers if ya dont alrteady have them. Makes it alot less trouble.
     
  9. Apr 3, 2006
    BobFortier

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    Hi Folks

    Done deal. I got the snap pliers, and I ordered a hub-nut tool. But since I dont have a garage and it was sunny outside, I decided to go outside and begin the job. I did not received yet the hub tool, but I understood pretty quickly the hammer and chisel method. PO did just that (as I could judge by the dents on the nut).

    I went to a part store and they found a bolt that fitted, I re-assembled all of it and I'm ready to put back the wheels.

    I found some tire, Safari by Kelly, ever heard of it ??? They are slightly used, I'll have them at 350$ for 4, size 31 10.5 r15



    Bob in Sherbrooke, Province of Québec
     
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