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using welding cable for battery cables ?

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by springerfever, Mar 30, 2006.

  1. Mar 30, 2006
    springerfever

    springerfever Member

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    Is this common practice ?

    I installed a red-top Optima a month ago and I want to upgrade my cables from 4 gauge to 2 gauge, primarily to handle the heavier current to the winch, and also to be able to custom cut for length. The welding cable is WAY cheaper than raw Ancor 2 gauge that I can get at the marine store...(anything at a marine store is at least twice as expensive as anywhere else).

    Also, currently (no pun intended!) my battery is hooked up to the side terminals. Should I run the new cables to the same location or are there advantages to using the top terminals ? Thanks !
     
  2. Mar 30, 2006
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    It is a big debate but IIRC the side posts really are not ment for running the vehical on. Do you have a winch? because I know that you are supposed to use the topposts for running a winch since it draws so much current for so long.
     
  3. Mar 30, 2006
    80cj

    80cj Member

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    Sharp pictures of a squeaky clean Jeep. Have you ever taken it off road?
     
  4. Mar 30, 2006
    springerfever

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    Back in the 80's when I bought her, we used to do a lot of four wheelin' and I got stuck a few times, hence the winch and homemade nerf bars.

    Its been a while since I've played in the dirt, but maybe this spring I'll take her up in the North Georgia mountains to run some of the USFS roads......
     
  5. Mar 31, 2006
    jpflat2a

    jpflat2a what's that noise?

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  6. Mar 31, 2006
    springerfever

    springerfever Member

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    jpflat2a

    thanks for the link !!

    Think I'll go for the top post set-up for the starting circuit and winch and use the side post for accessories........Thanks !!

    Anybody had good/bad experiences with welding cable ?
     
  7. Mar 31, 2006
    northernwheeler

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    Used it many times, works great. Like tumbleweed said, solder the ends, and it is worth getting some large shrink wrap to put over the connections to keep moisture out.
     
  8. Mar 31, 2006
    NorCoJeeper

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    Don't solder the ends, you'll never do an adequate job with cable that big. A proper crimp, which you should be able to get at your local full service parts store, is more than adequate. You can buy crimpers that you set with a hammer that work very well, too.

    Welding cable makes great battery cables. It's flexible and very abrasion resistant.
     
  9. Mar 31, 2006
    termin8ed

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    If you have problems melting the solder with a gun or iron, use a SMALL torch tip if you have access to a oxy/act torch. Just don't get it too hot;)
     
  10. Mar 31, 2006
    cj5 buggy

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    Windrock? we can convoy up...
     
  11. Mar 31, 2006
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    I'm gonna come down on the "Don't Solder" side of things here-

    A soldered joint introduces a stress point in the cable whenever it's subjected to movement, it Will eventually fail. Welding cable has a lot more flex (flop?) than standard battery cable & the fine wires will break a lot easier. A properly crimped connector is the way to go, they're far more resistant to failure. Smear plenty of anti-corosion grease all over the cable & inside the connector before crimping. As previously stated the "hammer" type crimping tool does a dandy job & isn't very expensive, your local Graybar should hav'em, or, if you know any industrial electricians/telecom installer types it's about a 30 second job. For extra protection a piece of heavy duty heat shrink tubing over the connectors is recommended.

    H.
     
  12. Mar 31, 2006
    73cj5

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    If your worried about corrosion slip a piece of heat shrink tubing over it, use the kind with the glue inside.
     
  13. Mar 31, 2006
    Rondog

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    Welding cable is good stuff. The finer stands will carry much more current that the heavier strands, and it's more flexible. Crimp and solder is the best connection, then cover the joint with good heatshrink tubing.
     
  14. Apr 1, 2006
    wminmi

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    :iagree: x2
     
  15. Apr 2, 2006
    springerfever

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    just an update on the latest project

    Bought a 25' roll of Radnor Flex-a-prene #2 welding cable (64003503)from a local company called Airgas...cost $38.97... MUCH cheaper than any other source of #2 battery cable. Also picked up some cable lugs for the finished ends.

    Used all but five feet rewiring my positive and negative battery feeds and runs for the Warn winch. The lugs I purchased were an extremely snug fit for the bare wire and I first tried my soldering iron with some electrical solder. Just too big of a lug for the iron to handle and the solder never melted. Used a propane torch to heat the lug and that did the trick. After cooling, wire brushed the lug, wrapped a few inches of electrical tape around the joint and then heated a few inches of adhesive-lined shrink tubing over that. All six cables came out great and were just the length required. This is a great way to go if your cables are undersized or just need replacing.

    By the way....#2 is heavy stuff, the easiest and cleanest way I found to cut it was a dremel with a cutoff wheel. Made a nice smooth cut that fit perfectly into the Radnor 64002141 lug.Thanks for all the advice....this is a GREAT resource for DIY projects !!
     
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