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moving rear axle back 1 inch

Discussion in 'Intermediate CJ-5/6/7/8' started by CJ5Doc, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. Jul 21, 2009
    CJ5Doc

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    I just currently had my Dana 20 transfer case rebuilt with Tera Low gears and a new larger 1 3/8”-32 spline rear output shaft to help strengthen the drivetrain. This output shaft is 1.5inches longer than stock and I don't want to shorten my already short CV driveshaft. I am thinking on moving the rear axle back about the same distance without moving the springs. Are there any negatives to doing this? I understand I will need to modify the fenders but I would like to keep the stock fender flares that I have. Has anyone done this modification? Did you use different flares?
     
  2. Jul 21, 2009
    Daryl

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    I have done it several times by drilling another hole in the spring perch. I have seen a couple of aftermarket spring perches that were longer and already had holes drilled. Would make sure that u-bolts are good, and wouldn't run it with high horsepower but it is a quick fix.
     
  3. Jul 21, 2009
    CJ5Doc

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    Why wouldn't you run it with high horsepower? What is the potential problem?
     
  4. Jul 21, 2009
    cj6/442

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    do you have a rear tank? check your clearence -clarence. my diff will bearly hit the tank but I don't have a stock set up.
     
  5. Jul 22, 2009
    unclebill

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    check your clearence -clarence
    whats your vector -victor?
     
  6. Jul 22, 2009
    Daryl

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    With just drilling another hole it doesn't have as much stability to counter axle wrap. Not ever a problem with a v-6. Or any AMC motor as HP isn't an issue with those.
     
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  7. Jul 22, 2009
    hudsonhawk

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    axle wrap is not caused by HP its caused by TORQUE. And all the AMC motors have loads of that at low RPMs
     
  8. Jul 22, 2009
    CJ5Doc

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    New 401 does have a lot of torque...... about 480ft/lbs. So why does moving the rear axle back 1 inch cause a anything different?
     
  9. Jul 22, 2009
    Patrick

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    I'm wondering how the U-bolts fit if the locating hole in the perch isn't centered with the axle tube..
     
  10. Jul 22, 2009
    kirk505

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    I would try to make the surface area from your new hole the same distance as the old location by fabricating an extension onto the spring perch.
     
  11. Jul 22, 2009
    Patrick

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    The axle tube has to be centered over the locating bolt/ pin in the leaf spring...
     
  12. Jul 23, 2009
    Daryl

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    Nothing "has to be centered" Why would the axle have to be centered over the spring center bolt. That bolt only has two functions. 1. Hold the spring pack together. 2. Locate the axle. The axle doesn't know if it is one inch behind or in front of the spring bolt. Like I said in a earlier post, you can simply drill another hole in the spring perch already welded to the axle- I have done this many times to move axle to back-or purchase a longer spring perch that is made to move the axle. Several speedshops sell these, and even sell ones with adjuster bolts for circle track cars that align the rear end.-Not adviseable for off-road applications- With a longer spring perch you can offset the possibility of unwanted axle wrap. This is a very simple elementary level mod that can give you some adjustment on your driveline length.
     
  13. Jul 23, 2009
    Patrick

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    OK, but then you have to use a spring plate that has a matching offset locating hole...Yes?
     
  14. Jul 23, 2009
    mpc

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    I've used this type of plate before.

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    Using one hole gives a shift of 1/2". If you use the other, it gives a shift of 1".
     
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    Daryl

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    Yes the u-bolt plate would limit you to the 1". The plates MPC put in the pic look like a good option and give more of an adjustment.
     
  16. Jul 23, 2009
    Patrick

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    That's where I was confused.
     
  17. Jul 23, 2009
    CJ5Doc

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    Daryl..... I appreciate all the feedback but you still haven't answered why you can't run much torque when doing this mod.
     
  18. Jul 23, 2009
    Daryl

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    With a hole drilled closer to the edge of the spring perch you lose some of the stability of the perch. It is easier for the torque to "lift " the spring perch. As you move the twisting force away from the center of the perch it is like moving the fulcrum closer to a load. If wanting to do this with a big motor it might be a good idea to buy a spring perch that is longer and gives a little more stability. I have been able to buy longer ones to do a spring over which helped considerably with axlewrap. I saw one Jeep that had the spring mount extended about 3" to do the exact same thing. Not trying to make this seem difficult, just don't want someone to do one thing and experience unwanted side effects.
     
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