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Are CJ model 20s and Waggie 20s the same R&P??

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by DanStew, Nov 13, 2004.

  1. Nov 13, 2004
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    I wll be getting my waggie rear end this week. I am wondering if the waggie and CJ ring and pinion are the same?? Just want to make sure before i start looknig for gears for it :)
     
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    sparky

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    AMC Model 20?
     
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    DanStew

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    OOps sorry. Yup AMC model 20 rear end.
     
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    rocnrol

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    same criter ;) the only diferent animal you will see is a 20 from a j truck which has one piece axles.
     
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    DanStew

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    Thanks guys. Defiantely one piece axles. Hopeing to somehow get a FF into it. I will find out when i get to experiment with the axle
     
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    rocnrol

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    also on the 20 there is no break in the carier, one does all ratios ;)
     
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    DanStew

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    I found that out about a month ago, i was overjoyed since the waggies didnt have the 2.07 ratio. :) So only will have to buy a carrier for the 44 when the time comes :)
     
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    blevisay

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    dibbies on the ff for the 44
     
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    timgr

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    The J-truck / Wagoneer rear end is called the AMC Corporate 23, or M23, and has 2-piece welded axles. That is, the hub is welded to the axle. Strength is comparable to the flanged Dana 44 - a lot stronger than the 2-piece CJ M20 or the 2-piece Dana 44.
     
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    Mcruff

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    :shock:
    I never heard of a ratio that numerically low.
     
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    mb82

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    yeh i have heard of the ford 9" having that low of a gear but never anything else.
     
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    timgr

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    Should be 3.07 I think. Most later Wagons had 3.07s stock or 3.31s with the towing package.
     
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    mb82

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    thats what i was thinking.
     
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    DanStew

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    I was thinknig the CJs has 2.07, maybe 2.73, it was in the 2's. I am hopnig not to gether that ration, that is actually the break i believe, the 2... gear ratio.. and then the rest of the gears for the model 20. I am still crossing my figners i wont have to change carriers.
     
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