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CJ5 1960 seat belt question

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Jake CJ5, May 23, 2011.

  1. May 23, 2011
    Jake CJ5

    Jake CJ5 Member

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    I have a 1960 CJ5 that came with no belts. Was the 1960 CJ5 delivered with belts?
    I'm not sure about the law here in AZ, but I'll be looking for some type of lap belt.
    Thanks
     
  2. May 23, 2011
    rusty

    rusty Well-Known Member

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    Prolly not. It is a good idea to install some though . :)
     
  3. May 23, 2011
    technologyteacher

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    I installed some aftermarket ones in our CJ-5. If you install some use grade 8 bolts, not cheap bolts.
     
  4. May 23, 2011
    sieg

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    I put some on my 69 cj5 got them from 4 wheel drive hardware just lapbelts about $20
     
  5. May 23, 2011
    Twin2

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    seat belts in a cj are a must have = they keep you and friends in there seat .safety first
     
  6. May 23, 2011
    sbu22

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    I just put a set of Balkamps (NAPA part # BK-7303082) in mine - base case black retractable seat belt - well constructed. Use grade 8s like tech said and make some backing plates.
     
  7. May 24, 2011
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    Do you have a roll bar or cage installed?

    If not belts can be counter-productive if you flip.

    H.
     
  8. May 24, 2011
    Red

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    What Howard said! I have a 59 CJ5 without roll bar and seat belts here in Mesa. AZ and federal law says if your vehicle didn't come with em' you don't need em'. Once you install them you can get a ticket for not having it on.

    The best safety item in our year Jeeps is the nut behind the steering wheel. I take my Heep out on all the local freeways and even here around town I don't want to remain in my Heep in a wreck. I'd rather be a busted up spectator to the crash than sitting on a partially filled gas tank while some jack-wagon drives his one ton 4X4 (dualie) with monster mudders and a three foot lift right on through my ride. If I flip it and am wearing a seat belt I'll be a greasy spot on the road about seventy-five meters long. Skip the belts and drive defensively. My GSD is harnessed for when we stop and there is some fear biter dog flashing him gang sign.
     
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  9. May 25, 2011
    Jake CJ5

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    Thanks to all for your ideas and advice.
     
  10. May 25, 2011
    Jake CJ5

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    Single bar bolted to rear inside wheel wells.
     
  11. May 25, 2011
    1960willyscj5

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    Seat belts did not become a requirement until after 1967 or so. Weren't even offered. Seemed to come along with the emissions stuff for some reason known only to the government.
    Your '60 didn't come with them.
    In fact everything except the drivers seat and windshield wiper was an option.
     
  12. May 26, 2011
    Howard Eisenhauer

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    In that case I'd go with a 3 point belt, those old style steering columns make darn good chest impalers. :(

    Those early bolt on bars were really more an "appearance" item but they should work reasonably well if properly re-enforced, I'd make sure there's fender washers on those roll bar bolts underneath the wheel houses. Bear in mind even then a bar is not really adequate if you're worried about road accidents, for that you really should have a cage otherwise you've just got a false sense of security.:rofl:

    H.
     
  13. May 26, 2011
    colojeepguy

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    The PO of my Jeep rolled it at about 40 MPH when he hit an icy bridge in Montana. The original style rollbar in it saved his life-it was laid over about 20 degrees but kept his head off the pavement. The hood, front fenders, and windshield were destroyed.
     
  14. May 27, 2011
    1960willyscj5

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    Mine had the bar mounted to the rear wheel-wells when I got it. and a set of lap belts, the non-retractable kind. I welded in the rest of the cage, and still just use the lap belts.
     
  15. May 27, 2011
    1960willyscj5

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  16. May 27, 2011
    nickmil

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    I also use the racing belts mtgs lap part only though the shoulder harness is fine if racing but don't allow enough movement for trail visibility. I buy mine from the local drag and circle track racers. They have date codes and must be replaced when the date expires even though perfectly good. I usually get a complete set of shoulder and lapmbelts for $40-$50 depending on style and manufacturer ni likemthe racing belts with the lever lock as they can easily be released when upside down but won't release on their own
     
  17. May 28, 2011
    Eaallred

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    Racing style belts only work if installed correctly. Shoulder belts need to be mounted behind the seat 4" higher or 1" lower than tops of shoulders. Any lower and you significantly increase risk of spinal compression in an accident. Any higher and they won't hold you in correctly. Make sure your cross bar in your cage is the correct height!

    I have been running G-Force belts in my drag car for six years now. Zero complaints about them. NHRA rules the belts must be changed every 2 years regardless, so i've gone through a few sets. Good deal at only $70 at Summit or Jegs. Maybe instead of selling them at the swap meets when they expire I should build a crossbar into my jeep cage and use them there!

    Only go 5-point, don't spend the money on 4-point harnesses. Without the crotch belt, the lap belt will NOT stay in place in the event of an accident. They are for show and are worse for you than a standard 3-point. Either go 3-point, or 5-point. 4-points shouldn't even be manufactured.
     
  18. May 31, 2011
    Red

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    I've been thinking, and the one question that hasn't been decided is "What's the Jeep's purpose?" Mine is a rebuild to look period correct but not at the expense of performance or safety. I intend on scooting around the city and going on trail runs that won't trash my body or destroy the Heep (on average trails rated ≤ 3.5). So a five point really isn't a good selection for me. I would say after everything here has been said; when you refine/define the Heep's mission then seats, seat belts, engine, or tires, you're going to be able to avoid purchasing items that look and sound good but are really over kill for a vehicle that's not running from Paris to Dakkar.
     
  19. May 31, 2011
    57cj5

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    before you buy a harness setup for your jeep, if you plan on driving around town then make sure they are DOT approved. Technically you could get a ticket if not approved and driving on the streets. I got my 3 point system and DOT approved harness (for rear) from these guys..

    http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/seatbelts.html
     
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