1971 CJ5 T-18 cross member

Hi you all ,1st post here ... Bought a 1971 cj5 with factory T-18 and V-6.. with the spicer 18 transfer case .The cross member has tons on holes in it . The snubber doesn't line up with the cross member like on a flatty . It is offset by about an inch to 1/2 inch. Is this right???..Does anyone have pictures of there's they wouldn't mind posting.. I have searched the data base here and didn't find what I was looking for. Thanks in advance, Gord

 

looks Like I can't post pics..I do have picks though..

 

The site won't host your pics - it's a security issue. You have to host them on another site (like photobucket) and hot link them here.

 

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Ok here are some pics hope this worked there are three altogether. The one pic shows how misaligned it is with the snubber hole. thanks

 

I ditched my OEM crossmember and made my own out of 3/8" flat stock.. I gained ~2" over the oem crossmember. Mine was always hanging up on stuff and was pretty beat up.. I did not re-install the torque arm either.. So far [3 years] and no issues..

 

Here's a few pix:

 

added pics from above... couldnt you move the crossmember forward and line it up?may have to ditch the platform that holds the trans mount and relocate that to the crossmember

 

Thanks for the interest ,though I am just trying to figure out what was originally there. Just doesn't seem right.. What is stock ?? Was the tranny swapped in ,or a different Xmember. What do other 1971 T-18 owners have ??.thanks

 

You might have to wait a while to find another member with a '71 and factory T-18. I don't know if the R-word is appro, but I'd guess only a few hundred units at most were produced. We've had a couple of them show up here, but none that I recall that belong to members that stick with the forum. Jeep really got rolling with the T-18 in '72, with the 258. Prior to '71, you could get a T-98 or T-90 with a F134, or a T-14 with a V6.

If you are worried that your transmission is not a factory installation, give us some more pics of the floor plates in particular. The floor plates are distinctive. And tell us the tag number from the transmission. I believe there should also be a plate adapter (less than an inch thick) between the engine and transmission.

BTW you realize that this should be the close ratio T-18, with a 4.02:1 1st gear. This is not the T-18 with the "granny" 1st that was used in trucks. CJs '71-76 (and the Commando '72-73) were the only application for this transmission, and only with a 6-cylinder engine.

From the picture, it looks like you have the mount sorted pretty well. I'd say that position is good if the engine and transmission is parallel with the chassis. The later Jeeps with this transmission may not have had the transmission in the same position - you already pointed out that the snubber is different for the D18. What exactly is your concern?

 

If you are worried that your transmission is not a factory installation, give us some more pics of the floor plates in particular. The floor plates are distinctive. And tell us the tag number from the transmission. I believe there should also be a plate adapter (less than an inch thick) between the engine and transmission.



OK the tranny has a casting number of T-18 1B ,4:1 1st gear,, Jeep S/N 8305017 375465 ,,It has the plate adapter 1" thick new pics added to photo bucket. I don't care about the 4:1 gearing. I think the snubber should utilized, but maybe it is not required in this app. Maybe the engineers never worried about it..again thanks for the help

 

Yep, factory 4-speed. I believe the T-18 1B numbers cast into the case are not meaningful. The tag should have 3 numbers, "T-18", a Warner Gear number and a Jeep PN "999636". The tag will be on the top cover, under one of the cover bolts. Any other numbers are Warner Gear's doing, and likely not meaningful. The floor plates are clearly correct for a '71 factory 4-speed.

You pictured the adapter between the T-18 and the Dana 18. I expect there to be a plate adapter at the front as well, between the bell housing and the transmission. All the Jeep T-18s from this era have one. But, this is a one-year deal, so it could be different.

Wish I could help you with the snubber. Would not hurt to connect it, if there's an obvious way to do it.

 

WoooWhooo thanks That gives me more confidence in what I have. The Jeep originally came from Washington State .Was imported by PO in 1990.. Yes it does have the 1" adaptor on the iput end.. If anyone one else can chime in about this Cross member /snubber mystery please speak up Thanks Gord