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hood and windshield potpourri

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by kiowamtp, Feb 19, 2005.

  1. Feb 19, 2005
    kiowamtp

    kiowamtp Member

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    I have posted a few different things about my windshield and hood on my NOW not so stock 1960 CJ5. Wow, so many different variation hodge podging mix matching thingamabobing things that can be pieced together to make up a JEEP!!!

    Anyway. Well, it seems that I have an early windshield frame with top mounted wipers and an intermediate or later hood on my Jeep. I have read just about all your posts on intermediate windshields.

    My question is should I forget this stock talk and go with comfort? Will I be disappointed and wish I would have gone intermediate windshield as opposed to replacing the hood for the correct one? Thank goodness I have another month of winter until I have to be ready to paint!!
    Oh and by the way, what is the notch on the left lower side of the hood and corresponding notch on the left clip for?


    Here are the pics.
     
  2. Feb 19, 2005
    speedbuggy

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    I am a big fan of comfort. I am replacing my early windshield with an intermediate just to gain the sight line. Glass is a couple of inches taller on the intermediates.
     
  3. Feb 19, 2005
    kiowamtp

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    Yes. I am beginning to see (no pun intended). Think I will get early hood and start looking for an intermediate set-up. If I understand it my top should still work. Thanks

    Kevin

    Anyone know what the notch on left side of the hood is for?
     
  4. Feb 19, 2005
    Brad Rabideau

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    No idea, but both my CJ's have that small cutout. What makes you think you have a later hood? Looks alot like the ones I have. One w/ snorkel cut out and the one without.
     
  5. Feb 19, 2005
    speedbuggy

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    Top will still work. I am puzzled at the hood as well. Is there something wrong with yours?
     
  6. Feb 19, 2005
    kiowamtp

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    One I do know is I have the correct windshield frame. I do not have the snorkel cutout on the right side and the little footman loop on the hood falls a couple inches short of the windshield frame. It was my understanding that the latch on the windshield frame locked into that loop to keep it from bumping around. When the hood is up the front loop on hood locks into the latch on the windshield. It falls short of the closer one as seen in the picture. BUT (and a hug BUT that is) I am learning something new about this Jeep every day now it seems. :oops:



    Thanks
     
  7. Feb 19, 2005
    kiowamtp

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    Also, it seems like the intermediate would latch down on the loop as the frame is longer. Now for another :beer:
     
  8. Feb 19, 2005
    Boyink

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    Your hood is right.

    The latch only latches the hood up, it doesnt' latch the w/s down.

    You should have a set of these on the outside of the w/s to hold it up off the hood:
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    Then there was a canvas strap that went through the footman loop on the hood to secure the w/s down.

    The outer dimensions of the intermediate w/s are the same, only the glass changes.

    If you swap to an intermediate w/s, you'll have to either also swap to an intermediate hood or mount 2 of the larger (1" tall) loops on each side of your early hood, they serve to keep the w/s frame off the hood rather than the standoffs posted above.

    Not sure what that small notch is - I always figured it was a wire access point for a block heater, fender horn, or somesuch.
     
  9. Feb 19, 2005
    kiowamtp

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    Ok then. I learned another thing today. Almost like flying a helicopter!! Someting new every day! Also, I now know what those black handle looking things are that were piled together in a parts box from the PO thanks to Mike! Except mine do not have the rope/rubber piece on top. I guess that explains a few holes in my windshield frame from a previous post!!

    Thanks once again
     
  10. Feb 19, 2005
    Steamer

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    I always thought the small "notch" on the left side of the hood was to stick your finger(s) into to raise the hood. That welting on the top of the grill was always a little sticky, IMO; notch offered a better grip, no?
     
  11. Feb 19, 2005
    Mcruff

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    These are not intermediate windshields these were standard on all the 70 and 71 model Jeeps, and some 69 models possibly.
     
  12. Feb 19, 2005
    Boyink

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  13. Feb 19, 2005
    kiowamtp

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    But what about the notch under the hood on the left fender well? Almost seems like it is for some other component. Maybe it is for an under the hood mounted pony keg and would allow for the hose to be run out from under!! Heck I just got schooled on my windshield and hood again. Like I am going to know that!! I am JV when it comes to Jeeps!
     
  14. Feb 19, 2005
    gte636p

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    the m38a1 has a light mounted on that fender. if i recall correctly the wire runs through that spot. maybe it was just easier to form all hoods and fenders like that and only put the snorkle cutout in the true m38a1 hoods.
     
  15. Feb 19, 2005
    wingtime

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    There are some interesting things about the notch on the left fender lip and hood. They are definate hold overs from the M-38. I have a 78 CJ-7 that has the notch on the fender on the drivers side and the larger snorkel notch on the passenger fender. Later CJs I've seen don't seem to have this. Now I don't know if Jeep exported a military version of the Cj-7 or not. I think it's a matter of simple tooling costs. Jeep kept on using the same tooling untill it simply wore out. When it did the notches went away.
     
  16. Feb 20, 2005
    Patrick

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    I thought the notch on the DS was originally for the wires for the blackout light on the fender.....Does make a handy spot to stick your fingers in to lift the hood, tho..
     
  17. Feb 20, 2005
    Hippo393

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    If you had an intermediate hood, it'd stick out about 6" beyond the grille.
     
  18. Feb 20, 2005
    Patrick

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    Or 3" or so.:D
     
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    Hippo393

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    (sigh) or 3" or so. :D
     
  20. Feb 20, 2005
    timgr

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    Actually, the sheet metal is 5" and the frame is 3" longer on a '72 or later CJ. IIRC.
     
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