1 Piece Tie Rod

Thanks to Daryl, I now have a 2 hole rt knuckle for my cj6. My search failed so who makes tie rods and drag links to convert this thing to a more modern steering system?
Thanks for any help.
Tim

 

Have you upgraded your steering box to a Saginaw type yet?

If you have the tools to thread DOM tubing you can do it yourself.............and if not threading equipment and are a capable welder , you can buy the tubing and the threaded insert's and put them together..........

First decide if your going to use a standard size and taper tie rod end and drag link ends or upgrading to a larger 1-ton version? Clearance around your pumpkin cover may decide what choice's you have.

There are also plenty of 4-wheel drive shops out there that will thread the tubing to your dimensions and sell you whatever tie-rod and drag link ends you need.

 

Still got the Ross system. Hoping to find something simple to bolt on to help fix the shakes. Saginaw and d30 will come later. Is there a chance that the intermediate parts would fit?

 

The one piece tie rod is a nice upgrade especially with the two hole knuckle.You may have underlying problems causing death wobble .(king pin bearings is the usual cause) Herm made my tie rods when I switched to the two hole knuckle.Did you service both knuckles when you installed the two hole. mike

 

The track width of a 30 is wider, so it's unlikely its tie rod would fit.

Yeah, typically the knuckles need attention if the Jeep was not owned by an enthusiast. I would take a close look at the king pin bearings.

 

All new king pin bearings and races. No shims, still seems just a little loose. Might could shim the race to tighten. Trying to get rid of the antique steering, and tighten it up a bit.
So tie rod and draglink is pretty much a custom thing, not available off the shelf?
Haven't installed the 2 hole knuckle yet. Trying to get parts together.

 

I have the answer. a 1970-85 toyota pickup has a 38 3/4" link that threads on the jeep ends and certainly could be cut down a couple inches if needed. Or if you want a shorter link for use with a single hole knuckle a 1998 jeep grand cherokee uses one thats about 35". For the shorter ones well I suggest just going to a junk yard and having a look around. It would be great if there was a chart or something online for this but i dont know of any

 

Try Speedway Motors as a source for your parts.

 

X2 on Speedway. They sell tie rods by the inch.

 

Off the shelf Yes if you have Common parts............but measuring what you need is best...........but before you venture into the one piece tie rod which can be used with portions of the old antiquated original Ross steering linkage I would first inspect all those parts all the way back to the steering gear and center bell crank.............that normally is where all the play in the system comes from.

And perhaps you should think about the Saginaw conversion now........as it will still work with the D-30 if you install it later.

Parts Mike in Auburn, California can build tie-rods and sell you tie rod ends........and speaks the Jeep language quite well.

 

The 1 piece tie rod is a worthwhile upgrade regardless of what steering system you use (reduces bump steer)
and the 2 hole knuckle will make a noticeable reduction in steering effort with manual steering.

 

Page 5 of Muzikp's build in builds and fabricators he made his. I'm shamelessly ripping it off and making my own as well.

 

Kartek Off-Road Custom Made 4130 Chromoly Tie Rod For 3/4" Heim Joints And Rod Ends On Both Sides - Kartek Off-Road
This may be my spring project now that the jeep is in full work mode. I bought the 3/4 TRE and also got my hands on a 2 hole knuckle.
Haven't used these guys but they were prompt in answering my emails.

 

I made mine. I welded a nut around the DOM tubing to hold it while taping and use it for adjustment. Used a cordless impact driver to run the tap in, two - three turns of the tap, then would back it out, clean the shavings and do it again. The only problem was starting the tap straight. Got one done, ended up taking tubing and taps to a machine shop to do the other one. Could not start the tap straight.

 

Mmm. I don't see why you would go this route unless you were building a race car or rock buggy. Those tie rods are meant for Heim joints and don't have the proper ends to tighten on conventional TREs. Rod ends are not automotive TREs. The big Heim joints are really expensive, and IIRC not street legal in many locales. Just make sure you are getting what you want.

If you have the TREs already and want to use them, I'd suggest contacting Parts Mike (suggested above) and see what they can provide that will work with the parts you have.

 

When I converted my 3B to a one piece tie rod and 2 hole knuckle, I just bought an new tie rod for an intermediate (72-75) and, IIRC, used an 11/16-18 tap to extend the threads in the right hand threaded end to the desired depth and then cut that end to length. That tie rod lasted 3 plus decades and only was replaced when I started putting a D44 replacement together.

The D44 uses 1.5" OD x.25" wall DOM with Roughstuff inserts for 7/8-18 threads (Chevy/GMC) and MOOG TRE's. I'm not at all a fan of heim joints on steering components unless it is on something that never sees a road, and even then, I'm not going to be using them. There are 1" TRE's available that have sufficient beef for about anything if you need that.

 

Very good to know, thanks! Happy holidays too!

 

Does a DJ use a one piece tie rod? And would that be the correct length?

 

Probably depends on the year, but my 75 has a one piece.

 

I just found this at Advance Adapters. I'm not sure if it is the right length for the single hole knuckle, two hole, or neither.
35.5" Tie Rod