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What To Do with the Bow Sockets

Discussion in 'Early CJ5 and CJ6 Tech' started by Boyink, Apr 14, 2005.

  1. Apr 14, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Undecided here - I plan to run my Off Your Rockers rear diamond plate corners on SSDutch, painted white to match.

    However - the Jeep still sports the original bow sockets. My options are to cut them off the body so the corners will go on, or cut large slots in the diamond plate to allow the sockets to stick out.

    On the one hand, they serve me no purpose - the PO had an antenna mounted in one but it looked hokey.

    On the other hand, they're one of those cool "old Jeep" features that always seem to start a "what were those for" kind of discussions with newer Jeep owners.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Apr 14, 2005
    Worth

    Worth Ex Farm Hand

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    You know 20 years from now someone will want to put an original canvas top on it. Leave them. They're cool.
     
  3. Apr 14, 2005
    John A. Shows

    John A. Shows Comic Relief

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    Leave them on there...remember the Boyink Door? I'm sure you'll come up with something to make them usefull. Maybe get one of those Gorrilla Wrenches and store it in that hole.
     
  4. Apr 14, 2005
    DanStew

    DanStew Preowned Merkin salesman Staff Member

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    I am leaving mine on just for the "What is that.." factor. Some of those little brackets are just cool. Since most of my jeep is not original i want to keep what little i can to keep it resembling a 1963 jeep :)
     
  5. Apr 14, 2005
    Chris Insull

    Chris Insull All roads lead me back to the beach... 2023 Sponsor 2022 Sponsor

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    Leave 'em on! May even be able to mod a beach umbrella to fit when at the Silver Lake dunes... ;) Besides, it's a cool "old school" feature!! :)
     
  6. Apr 14, 2005
    jd7

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    I always Grind the welds and put them up and they go with the Jeep if I sell it....always except on my last cj2a. I always afraid I catch or bump something and do damage.
     
  7. Apr 14, 2005
    mb82

    mb82 I feel great!

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    mine are gone. but i think i am going to make new ones when i get a chance. i was thinking some kind of tent setup for when i am out on the beach.
     
  8. Apr 14, 2005
    Old Bill

    Old Bill Aggressively passive....

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    You'll be glad you left them on when you set up your Boyink camp shade....
    Already giving me ideas to utilize mine.
     
  9. Apr 14, 2005
    Ghetto Fab.

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    Why not grind them off, put your panels on, then weld them to the new panels? You could keep them and have your new panels.

    Kevo
     
  10. Apr 14, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Thought about that, but not sure how easy it would be to weld to diamond plate and have it look good.

    I 've yet to fit the corners to SSDutch, on Dutch there was a bit of a gap right in the corner area. Probably due to all the bodywork Dad did.
     
  11. Apr 14, 2005
    blevisay

    blevisay Oh Noooooooooooooooo! Staff Member

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    Keep them.......

    I for one can see a Dutchco Coleman lantern holder there............
     
  12. Apr 14, 2005
    67cj5

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    Welding them to the diamond plate is not an option. Most aftermarket diamond plate corner covers are aluminum and steel doesnt weld to aluminum. If you are making steel diamond plate corners first I need to ask,,, why. But best of luck with whatever you decide. Me personally I wiould cut it off, but I love fabing new stuff anyhow and there isnt alot of jeep left at my house.
     
  13. Apr 14, 2005
    w3srl

    w3srl All-around swell dude Staff Member

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    Why the body corner plates in the first place Mike, I thought your tub was pretty solid? I've never been a fan of the bolt-on stuff like that, just another place to accumulate moisture and foster rust IMHO.

    I took the bow pockets off my flattie, but I really boogered the tub up in the process. It took a LOT of time to make the bed corners look right again, time I could have spend better elsewhere. :rofl:

    I'm with the rest of the guys, If I had it to do over again, I would have left them on there.
     
  14. Apr 15, 2005
    jhuey

    jhuey Michigan Jeeper!

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    There is no easy way to remove them, they are welded and spot welded too. You really booger them up when removing them. I removed mine, was going to save them for nostalgia's sake but after removing the first one I had a twisted piece of scrap. A quick note I had a lot of rust behind them. If I had to do it again I would leave them alone.
    Joe
     
  15. Apr 15, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Off Your Rockers brand corners are 1/8" steel, here's a pic of when I had them on Dutch:

    [​IMG]

    What I meant by the "difficult to weld to" comment was more around the bumpy nature of the diamond plate and how to make something with a flat edge look like it belonged there.

    Why steel? 'Cause it's actually protection rather than just bling. ;)

    SSDutch is pretty solid, but the passenger side corner has spare tire mount holes and holes from a CB mount that I removed.

    The driver's side corner has a crack in the body right by the tailight.

    In order to mount the rear-mount gas tank I need to cut a large hole for the gas filler (see pic above). The corner already has the hole and adds support back into that spot.

    I went back and forth about running them but there's more work to not run them than to just mount them. I'm terrible at bodywork, and SSDutch will see trail time ( would hate to spend a bunch of time on the corners only to bang em up on the trail).

    I'm not concerned about the moisture - with the top edge and bolt holes sealed up and the bottom left open for drainage it'll be fine (or as vulnurable as most of the rest of the Jeep...;))
     
  16. Apr 15, 2005
    Ducks-Bass-n-Jeeps

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    I have been thinking about fabbing one of those roof luggage (beer cooler) ;) racks like you see on the newer jeeps and utilizing the sockets for that.
     
  17. Apr 16, 2005
    67cj5

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    I agree, why the plates anyway? Sealing the top and leaving the bottom open helps but with dissimilar metals and something to complete an eleatric path ie water,dirt,you will have rust behind them. But why add them anyway. The beauty of these jeeps in my opinion is the light weight. I am trying to keep mine under 2800 complete
     
  18. Apr 16, 2005
    Boyink

    Boyink Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Read below...SSDutch isn't that straight. Take as much or more work to not use them as to use them.

    And how are steel and steel dissimilar?
     
  19. Apr 16, 2005
    67cj5

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    Alloys and thickness, Thats how they are different.Besides are all bolts just plain steel? I think not.I know you didnt attach these with super glue. Believe me when I tell you this. I have been to all type of corrosion and advanced corrosion schools to understand it at a chemical level. It will be there. Unless you seperate it completely it will be there, probally start in the steel around your hardware first. If you just used these for cosmetics to cover up damage, then that is up to you. After all it is your jeep, do what you want with it, Just trying to help others that read this and do not completely understand corrosion from making what I believe to be a mistake. Just trying to help, not trying to argue. Good luck whatever you decide. Oh buy the way, I really like the Boyink door, A stroke or fabrication genius in my mind. Find a useless item and make it useful.BRAVO ZUZU
     
  20. Apr 16, 2005
    Patrick

    Patrick Super Moderator Staff Member

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    My brothers '64 retains the sockets. He uses them camping for tent poles, making a dandy shelter over the back of his Jeep, which is usually our "kitchen", using the reciever mounted pack rack he built.
    I'd consider carefully notching the corners to fit around them........
     
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