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74' renegade colors

Discussion in 'Early Jeep Restoration and Research' started by kdm, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. Feb 27, 2008
    kdm

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    does any know if fawn beige was a factory color for renegades, I think I have seen some pictures of one in that color???
     
  2. Feb 29, 2008
    timgr

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    In 1974, no, not officially. The official colors in 1974 were Renegade Yellow and Renegade Plum. Jeep was easy about special orders though, so it's possible there could have been a few exceptions. Also, from 1973 on, you could purchase a Jeep with all the Renegade options and the dealer could add stripes and wheels to make a "Renegade." Any combination is possible. Possible but not official or likely.
     
  3. Feb 29, 2008
    Mcruff

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    Renegades came in several colors in 74. I have a friend that has an original that was bought new in Birmingham that is Butterscotch. Here is a Jeep ad that shows a red one.
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  4. Feb 29, 2008
    timgr

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    Mmm. Could be. Says "a dazzling assortment of colors" but that refers to all CJ-5s. I only recall the Renegade colors though. The color is an added-value thing you get with the package - why pay for a Renegade if you don't get the zoomy colors?

    I've never seen a Butterscotch Gold one, but I've seen lots and lots and lots with the 'Renegade' colors. Maybe that's a special for Alabama... :D
     
  5. Feb 29, 2008
    Mcruff

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    Heres a picture of one scanned from the net:

    As far as the ad goes its describing the Renegade not all Cj's so my take would be it was available in all colors but the Renegade Plum and Yellow were only available on a Renegade.
    I personally have seen several original Renegades in Blue, Red and Mellow Yellow. The Red one was while I was in HS in Florida a friends dad had bought it new.
     
  6. Feb 29, 2008
    kdm

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    thanks for the input. Ive got a '74 renegade that my dad bought in '76 its fawn beige [as best as i can tell by the color chips ive found] and I am 99.995% sure its all original. Anyways im getting ready to start a resto on it and was just checking Im glad i found this site lots of info thanks. by the way does anyone know if they changed the renegade decals mid '74 or something the replacements ive found are not like mine the side stripes are different. Mine are a 90 degree and two piece[broken over the word jeep] Im thinking the ones i found are for '75.the jeep logo is higher on the quarter panel on a '74 so the 75 dont have two pieces on the side like a '74. Does that sound correct????
     
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  7. Feb 29, 2008
    timgr

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    Sorry to be picky ... that's not Butterscotch Gold, but instead Copper Poly. And those aren't Renegade wheels. I say the stripes were added at the dealership... no way to prove it one way or the other though.

    Well, yeah, I can see how the advertisement might be interpreted that way. "A dazzling assortment of colors and options" doesn't make sense for the Renegade though, because when you bought the Renegade package, it came fully optioned... there aren't any options left to add. Advertising copy... it implies that the Ren was available in more colors. Even a list of colors in a sales brochure wouldn't settle it.

    <edit> We've been through this before ... after '72, the Ren options (except for the painted roll bar) were all available from the regular option list. In '74, everything on the Ren package, except the special paint colors, wheels and stripes, were available off the dealer's lot from the regular option list. You could buy the wheels and the stripes at the Jeep parts counter. The paint colors matter. A Ren that isn't one of the special colors doesn't have anything unique about it that any other production Jeep from that year couldn't have. So, i you like the Fawn Beige with the stripes, more power to you ... it might have been delivered with the Renegade package, it might not. The only way you can prove it today is with the dealer invoice or window sticker. However, if you have a '74 Ren with the special paint and it's original paint, then no question it's an original '74 Renegade.

    Sorry for the rant...
     
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  8. Mar 1, 2008
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    This may help , This is a color sheet from the JEEP dealer 1974. This is my first time attaching to a posting.
    I hope it works. How do you make it come up like the JEEP ad?
    Thanks Paul
     
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  9. Mar 1, 2008
    kdm

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    okay so that answers the color question. anyone have any info on the decals mine are just like the ones in the ad above[on the red jeep].I was also wondering if i can find a replacement for the brace that goes across the back where the tailgate would be[victim of rust] thanks for the help. by the way I am new here and this site is great thanks for all the info.
     
  10. Mar 3, 2008
    timgr

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    The color sheet clears that up ... I'd expect you can even get the fleet colors with the Renegade package in 1974, so even more colors are possible (Omaha Orange, Black, White, Transport Yellow, GSA Gray - though that seems unlikely :rofl: and others).

    Re the stripes, sometime in that era (mid '74 I think? not sure... at the latest, by '75), the location of the "Jeep" letters moved down on the body, and then the stripes would have to change. If you look at http://www.goldeneagledecals.com/renegade.html They have the black and white stripes for the low-letter body, but I've never seen a V8 badge placed like that from the factory. I believe the V8 badge was '72-73 only, and replaced by the black-and-silver plastic "CJ-5" badge in '74.

    Classic Enterprises may be able to help you with the brace. The solid back panel shares parts with the M38A1 IIRC, and they sell panels for them. http://www.classicent.com/jeep.php I presume you mean the external brace. I'd suggest you start another thread about that, and post some pictures. The brace is a simple part, and you might get some good suggestions about how to fix it.
     
  11. Mar 3, 2008
    kdm

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    mine does have the V8 badge on the side in the middle of the bottom stripe. sticker on the dash says it was produced may of 1974. I have been able to find plenty of decals for the low-letter body but none for mine .I will search on and let everyone know if i find anything. thanks
     
  12. Mar 15, 2008
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    It was very late 74 to early 75 models that the stripe changed... this did coincide with the movement of the 'jeep' stamping on the side panel. neighbor bought a 75 new... and it was as described.

    on the header at the top of the page there is sometimes a yellow renegade that shows... it has the V-8 emblem and the stripe like you describe.
    Bought a 74 brand new... it was just like the one in the header...

    have not found source for this lower stripe... need for a 74 purple renegade we are restoring... along with all the center hood decal.
     
  13. Mar 16, 2008
    timgr

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    Ok, so maybe the V8 badge went away when Jeep moved the letters down on the body? How about the "CJ-5" emblem

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    - I had thought that started with '74.
     
  14. Mar 16, 2008
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    For what its worth, I have the CJ-5 emblems on my 75, there when purchased new. Located under the jeep stamping on the cowl. From my studies, it is my understanding that they were for 74-75 only. Part of what makes this stuff so interesting to me is the lack of factory records on the changes. Kind of an "American" thing, build 'em from what you've got laying around... apparently.
     
  15. Apr 2, 2008
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    Not to hijack this thread but check with Mike of AustinJeeps.com

    He is working on reproducing the stripes for the 74 Renegade.
     
  16. Apr 19, 2008
    Ricardo77

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    So does anybody have a pic of a painted butterscotch gold ???
     
  17. Apr 20, 2008
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    Just to add in...I just re-aquired my dad's 74 Renegade that he bought new. It looked identical to this picture, "JEEP" placement, V8 emblem, decals and color. It is Renegade Orange. According to him it was a 75 color since it was a late 74 production. Well, minus the other two round decals that have been added.
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  18. May 8, 2008
    kdm

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    Hey mjhoward do you know if that is maybe a real late '74 model year??mine is not like that it is like the one in the header(yellow jeep) I can find decals like yours everywhere but not the other.Also I think the cj-5 badge is on the front grill on mine under the drivers headlight I will have to double check on that.
     
  19. Jan 7, 2009
    mjhoward

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    Sorry so slow to see this but I believe mine is a Sept. 74 production. and yes, mine has the black plastic CJ-5 on the front as you said.
     
  20. Jan 7, 2009
    timgr

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    Just FYI - a '74 produced in September 1974 seems very unlikely. Production of the current model year ends in the summer, tooling for the new model year is installed, and production starts before the release date. The 1975 vehicles would have been released by fall, so the Jeep should be a 1975 model. If the VIN starts with J4, it's a '74. If the VIN starts with J5, it's a '75 model even though it was built in 1974.

    If the yellow and black sticker is gone from the dash, I suggest you look at the engine build date (tag on the valve over) to get an idea of when the Jeep was built. Typically the engine was built within a few days of when it went into the chassis.
     
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